Rooting For "Deep State" To Undermine Trump Is Destroying Democracy In Name Of Saving

[Zandalarian Paladin]

Well, since you are not American, you have plenty of choices whom to support. You didn't have to support Trump or Hillary, you could have supported neither. You could have supported someone else entirely. DOn't blame others, because you supported Trump, blame yourself.

I supported Bernie, then Trump.

You know, for someone who's telling others to stop thinking black and white, you're certainly prone to setting me into a single category.

[ControlWarrior]

I'm curious, in what realm does scrapping wall street regulation like Dodd Frank, gutting environmental protections against coal byproducts poisoning drinking water, and nominating oligarchs into public positions make Trump objectively better than Clinton?

I laugh at your platitudes! But yeah, Hillary would have been more destructive in the long run. Trump will get settled in soon.

[Glorious Leader]

Oh fuck right off. Republicans have made that claim against democrats for decades. Remember how your lot were screaming that Obama was going to take everyones guns away? Remember it happening? No, neither do I.

Its a claim republicans use against their base to drive them crazy with paranoia and fear, so that they go out and vote. It works. But that doesn't mean there is an ounce of truth in it. There never has been and never will be.

But clealry its fucking effective cause they drilled it into that poor fools head. Now apparently when the media covers trump its just fake news!! But the 8 years of the death camps? And the kenyan socialist, and the birtherism, and coming for your guns that was legit right?? You think libs calling trump a nazi is.unfounded? The right wing fucktards did that to obama as well.

[Machismo]

I supported Bernie, then Trump.

You know, for someone who's telling others to stop thinking black and white, you're certainly prone to setting me into a single category.

Then why did you stop supporting Bernie? Why did you feel the need to support one of two shitty candidates? If I were you, I would have continued to support Bernie. Instead, you compromised your beliefs, and it's pathetic.

[Glorious Leader]

I supported Bernie, then Trump.

You know, for someone who's telling others to stop thinking black and white, you're certainly prone to setting me into a single category.

Of courde you did. Now dems and progressives are at the kids table becauze holding your nose was really fucking hard to do. Worse you actually voted somebody in who in many regards could not be more diametrically opposite of bernie. Bernie has been all over trump since day 1.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

I'm curious, in what realm does scrapping wall street regulation like Dodd Frank, gutting environmental protections against coal byproducts poisoning drinking water, and nominating oligarchs into public positions make Trump objectively better than Clinton?

In what realm does pushing pay to play, media collusion, manipulation of data and propaganda better?

Yes, I am against Trump's policies on environment, stop categorizing "siding for Trump mean agreeing with Trump".

Then why did you stop supporting Bernie? Why did you feel the need to support one of two shitty candidates? If I were you, I would have continued to support Bernie. Instead, you compromised your beliefs, and it's pathetic.

You think I stopped supporting Bernie? Where did I say that?

[JohnBrown1917]

I supported Bernie, then Trump.

You know, for someone who's telling others to stop thinking black and white, you're certainly prone to setting me into a single category.

Seems you never really stood behind what Bernie wanted, you made one hell of jump.

[Karamaru]

Wasnt Eisenhower rambling about this "Deep State" non-sense like 50 odd years ago?

[Zandalarian Paladin]

Of courde you did. Now dems and progressives are at the kids table becauze holding your nose was really fucking hard to do. Worse you actually voted somebody in who in many regards could not be more diametrically opposite of bernie. Bernie has been all over trump since day 1.

If that was true in the slightest you would have a point.

[Machismo]

In what realm does pushing pay to play, media collusion, manipulation of data and propaganda better?

Yes, I am against Trump's policies on environment, stop categorizing "siding for Trump mean agreeing with Trump".



You think I stopped supporting Bernie? Where did I say that?

Then why did you support Trump?

[Glorious Leader]

If that was true in the slightest you would have a point.

Its all fucking true. At what fucking point do you think voting trump supports bernie? You think any progressive agenda is gonna get passed with trump and the reps in power?

[Zandalarian Paladin]

Seems you never really stood behind what Bernie wanted, you made one hell of jump.

Supporting Hillary was actually worse than supporting Trump if you genuinely believed in Bernie. But of course I wouldn't expect that of people who has so little grasp on why Hillary was so dangerous in the first place.

Bernie was anti-establishment. Trump was anti-establishment. Trump is sadly pro-wall streets. But the Deep State is bitting their nails right now, and that's enough for the time being.

As for anything else, he has done nothing to deserve the hate he receives right now.

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Then why did you support Trump?

Bernie could still be elected president?

[JohnBrown1917]

Of courde you did. Now dems and progressives are at the kids table becauze holding your nose was really fucking hard to do. Worse you actually voted somebody in who in many regards could not be more diametrically opposite of bernie. Bernie has been all over trump since day 1.

In the US, he is probably the politician furthest away from Trump.
In Europa, its the democratic socialist parties.

[Machismo]

Supporting Hillary was actually worse than supporting Trump if you genuinely believed in Bernie. But of course I wouldn't expect that of people who has so little grasp on why Hillary was so dangerous in the first place.

Bernie was anti-establishment. Trump was anti-establishment. Trump is sadly pro-wall streets. But the Deep State is bitting their nails right now, and that's enough for the time being.

As for anything else, he has done nothing to deserve the hate he receives right now.

But you could have simply chose to support neither. You didn't do that. You decided to choose between a shit sandwich and a shit sandwich with pickles. A more intelligent person would have ordered something different.

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Supporting Hillary was actually worse than supporting Trump if you genuinely believed in Bernie. But of course I wouldn't expect that of people who has so little grasp on why Hillary was so dangerous in the first place.

Bernie was anti-establishment. Trump was anti-establishment. Trump is sadly pro-wall streets. But the Deep State is bitting their nails right now, and that's enough for the time being.

As for anything else, he has done nothing to deserve the hate he receives right now.

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Bernie could still be elected president?

Why does that matter, you aren't even American.

You could have supported any of these people, or none of them.

http://www.politics1.com/p2016.htm

[JohnBrown1917]

You think I stopped supporting Bernie? Where did I say that?

So you support the 2 US politicians the furthest apart from each other?
What brain tricks do you use to be both center-left and far right?

[Zandalarian Paladin]

So you support the 2 US politicians the furthest apart from each other?
What brain tricks do you use to be both center-left and far right?

Trump, far right? What? I would agree for Bannon, but Trump?

[Wells]

I wouldn't expect any less of people still stuck accusing the other side of their own losses.

Following up nonsense with a strawman isn't very "high road" there broski.

I don't like Trump, but objectively Hillary was worse. Read: Deep State.

Bullshit. There isn't a single issue that Trump was better on than Clinton, unless you're a social conservative.

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I supported Bernie, then Trump.

/facepalm

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[JohnBrown1917]

Supporting Hillary was actually worse than supporting Trump if you genuinely believed in Bernie. But of course I wouldn't expect that of people who has so little grasp on why Hillary was so dangerous in the first place.

Bernie was anti-establishment. Trump was anti-establishment. Trump is sadly pro-wall streets. But the Deep State is bitting their nails right now, and that's enough for the time being.

As for anything else, he has done nothing to deserve the hate he receives right now.

Bernie was far more than just anti-establishment. Nobody said you should support Clinton, its supporting Trump that makes no sense. His policies are polar opposite to Bernie.

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Trump, far right? What? I would agree for Bannon, but Trump?

Look at his economic policies.

[Wells]

But the Deep State is bitting their nails right now, and that's enough for the time being.

They're biting their nails because he's a genuiely dumb man who doesn't want to stop being dumb and is compromised by foreign governments. We all should be biting our nails.

[Sky High]

In what realm does pushing pay to play, media collusion, manipulation of data and propaganda better?

Yes, I am against Trump's policies on environment, stop categorizing "siding for Trump mean agreeing with Trump".

it doesn't, and you know what, Trump is shitty on two of the points you listed! again, Betsy Devos, enough said. and lemme see, does Trump want to stop things like mass data collection? that's a negative. Propaganda? well, that's a toss up.

look I'm just pondering why you need to pick a side in the first place. not only do you have the freedom of not having that much skin in the game but Trump doesn't deserve your benefit of the doubt. he only deserves you keeping him accountable for the things he has said he wants to do that can be argued as being good policies. he is not honest so why expect honesty from him?