KY: Men must get note from wives before purchasing Viagra.

[Machismo]

That's immensely simplistic, I'm sure this isn't the only situation where a creature accepts a risk of short-term harm in order to reap long-term benefits.

The mother has biological systems that have evolved specifically to allow the foetus to develop, the mother also benefits from pregnancy allowing them to pass on their genes. These are not features of a parasitic relationship. If you don't like the term "symbiotic" for this sort of relationship what word do you like?

The host can withstand the harm, but that does not mean the harm is not occurring. I already stated the term I prefer, parasitic.

[Zantos]

I feel like her mental state should be evaluated and her role in the government terminated. She Clearly just pulled some childish crap that is going to waste time and resources just to try and get back at a bill she hates. I mean really, it was bad to begin with, but adding in that they would need to swear an oath on the bible? Anyone whit half a brain knows she isn't serious and that she is just doing this to be passive aggressive because she lost a vote.

She isn't introducing provocative proposals. The bill saying men need to give consent to abortion did that. It got people talking about fathers needing to be informed of what is going on. What she is doing is simply wasting time and resources.

[alexkeren]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...hasing-viagra/


Clearly a response to http://newsok.com/article/5538011

This is what American politics has devolved into, political parties trolling one another.

Clearly you didn't read the article you quoted.

The Kentucky rep clearly stated it was in response to an earlier Kentucky law.

[Dhrizzle]

The host can withstand the harm, but that does not mean the harm is not occurring. I already stated the term I prefer, parasitic.

And I've explained that in parasitic relationships the host does not evolve systems to support and nurture the parasite, nor does the parasitic relationship make the host evolutionary fit (it does not help the host in passing on genes.) "Symbiotic" is the best term for the relationship, "parasitic" is inaccurate.

[Deleted]

some scientists have sought to make the definition of a parasite include the caveat that it must be two organisms from different species

Some? I'm not aware of any other scientific definition
It's no different than calling a fetus a baby¡[/QUOTE]
It's not different, as you expose: failing you providing or producing a scientific consensus for the definition of parasitism intra-species, both are equally wrong. And there's no way to extract any amount of right from that.
If your argument centers on increasing the amount of wrong in a discussion, you're damaging to the cause.

[Vargulf the Happy Husky]

Making the decision for others as to who can and can not use or continue to use their bodies would make you a shittier human being.

im good with that

[zenkai]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...hasing-viagra/


Clearly a response to http://newsok.com/article/5538011

This is what American politics has devolved into, political parties trolling one another.

Fuck that, my body my choice, democrats trying to tell me what I can and cannot do.

[Raelbo]

Mazian is a moron.

Lol no, she's a genius

Hint: She doesn't actually want those laws, read the article again and pay attention this time.

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Fuck that, my body my choice, democrats trying to tell me what I can and cannot do.

/facepalm. Talk about hypocrisy.

She's being ironic by proposing a ridiculous law that she knows cannot possibly pass, in order to highlight the ridiculousness of Republican legislation. Of course the problem with her approach is that her intended audience is probably incapable of "getting it". They simply cannot see the hypocrisy because of their own bigotry.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

Lol no, she's a genius

Hi

I think its pretty petty and ridiculous.

[Mehrunes]

While I oppose the laws she's protesting, it's still petty partisanship on her part. That won't get anywhere, since I seriously doubt people passing those laws are even susceptible to mockery anymore. Besides, while she does mention family values in relation to both and I'm not super in touch with the Kentucky abortion law abomination, the same thing in Oklahoma was largely related to issues of fathers' rights specifically. Still their child, traumatic, yadda yadda. And I said, I disagree with that. Well, to be specific, I disagree with the assertion that this should have any bearing on the bodily autonomy of the woman, not that this can be traumatic for the father who wanted the child to be born. So they do have a point, even if I don't agree with where they want to apply it. The child is still also the husband's. The erection is not the wife's. This counter-proposal seems to be a false equivalence in regards to the motivations behind the law it's protesting.

[Raelbo]

I think its pretty petty and ridiculous.

If she was actually serious about passing such a law, then I'd agree with you.

But she's not. It's a form of protest intended to draw attention to an important issue and to that end it seems to have succeeded. Unfortunately I doubt it will do anything to sway her opponents - the message will go right over their thick skulls.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

If she was actually serious about passing such a law, then I'd agree with you.

But she's not. It's a form of protest intended to draw attention to an important issue and to that end it seems to have succeeded. Unfortunately I doubt it will do anything to sway her opponents - the message will go right over their thick skulls.

You're right it will, and thats why its so ridiculous and petty. Its just petty, partisan, foot stomping.

[xuros]

Well maybe when Republicans stop trying to fuck over women, Democrats wouldn't pull this shit.

Republicans have been like this for 40 years. They can't get out of vaginas that aren't their own butthurt ones.

Democrats support/bend over for countries where the religious majority murder/mutilate thousands of women a year. Still accuse republicans of a war on women. Cute.

[zenkai]

Lol no, she's a genius

Hint: She doesn't actually want those laws, read the article again and pay attention this time.

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/facepalm. Talk about hypocrisy.

She's being ironic by proposing a ridiculous law that she knows cannot possibly pass, in order to highlight the ridiculousness of Republican legislation. Of course the problem with her approach is that her intended audience is probably incapable of "getting it". They simply cannot see the hypocrisy because of their own bigotry.

Because Viagra is the same as destroying a human life.

[KrazyK923]

Democrats support/bend over for countries where the religious majority murder/mutilate thousands of women a year. Still accuse republicans of a war on women. Cute.

This was a load of horseshit when retards barfed it out during the campaign, and is still now.

Pretty sure you don't want to start down the road of which political party in the US is cozier with despots in the middle east.

[xuros]

This was a load of horseshit when retards barfed it out during the campaign, and is still now.

Pretty sure you don't want to start down the road of which political party in the US is cozier with despots in the middle east.

So it does not happen?

[Raelbo]

Because Viagra is the same as destroying a human life.

So basically you're trying to prove false equivalence using a strawman. Nice.

[Mehrunes]

Yeah I'm pretty amazed at how few people seemed to have read it, to be honest. Wasn't expecting that.

Technically, you're leading by example, though for other reasons.

[pateuvasiliu]

Lol no, she's a genius

Hint: She doesn't actually want those laws, read the article again and pay attention this time.

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/facepalm. Talk about hypocrisy.

She's being ironic by proposing a ridiculous law that she knows cannot possibly pass, in order to highlight the ridiculousness of Republican legislation. Of course the problem with her approach is that her intended audience is probably incapable of "getting it". They simply cannot see the hypocrisy because of their own bigotry.

It's a bad analogy. Viagra/vasectomy affects only the man.

Abortion affects the woman and the man's kid.

[zenkai]

So basically you're trying to prove false equivalence using a strawman. Nice.

How is it a valse equivalency? The argument for pro life is that abortion destroys a human life, and if her point to show that they are wrong is to regulate Viagra then she doesn't understand the argument and it makes her look like a fucking moron.