fire mage and shiet dps

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Hello
I have fire mage ilvl 891 and i do shiet dps on all bosses ;/ i dont know what i do wrong. I speak with other mages and they tell me i got right rotation and talents.


warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/20484279/latest#boss=1849 if u can tell me what is wrong with my char.

i using rotation.
mirror image > pheonix flames > combustion > meteor > fire blast > pyro > fire blast > pyro > dragon breath > pyro > pheonix > pyro > pheonix > pyro
then fire ball until i got heating up > blast or pheonix or dragon breath and pyro, meteor and mirror when cd end.

some times i weit with meteor or other aoe until i get combustion(max 20s)
i see that my spells dont do much dmg but i dont know why.
Simulationcraft tell i should make 480k dps

mage="Dzikitom"
level=110
race=human
region=eu
server=burning_legion
role=
professions=alchemy=89/herbalism=800
talents=1111323
spec=fire
artifact=54:0:0:0:0:748:1:749:3:750:3:751:3:752:3:753:3:754:3:755:3:756:3:757:3:758:1:759: 1:760:1:761:1:762:1:763:1:1340:1:1372:7

head=,id=132863,bonus_id=3458/3455
neck=,id=140894,enchant_id=5439,bonus_id=3444/1492/3336
shoulder=,id=140853,enchant_id=5442,bonus_id=3443/1482/3337
back=,id=137483,enchant_id=5436,bonus_id=3510/1537/3337
chest=,id=137352,bonus_id=3414/1522/3337
wrist=,id=132406,bonus_id=3529/3530
hands=,id=142429,bonus_id=3507/1497
waist=,id=144404,bonus_id=3443/1472/3336
legs=,id=134218,bonus_id=3413/1527/3337
feet=,id=140914,bonus_id=3517/42/1492/1813
finger1=,id=142469,enchant_id=5427
finger2=,id=133679,bonus_id=3534/1542/3337
trinket1=,id=133641,bonus_id=3416/1532/3337
trinket2=,id=140801,bonus_id=3514/1477/3336
main_hand=,id=128820,bonus_id=730,relic_id=3514:1482:3336/3514:1472:1813/3514:1472:1813,gem_id=140834/140810/140835/0
off_hand=,id=133959,relic_id=0/0,gem_id=0/0/0/0

Sorry for my english and thanks for help

[Deleted]

Hello
I have fire mage ilvl 891 and i do shiet dps on all bosses ;/ i dont know what i do wrong. I speak with other mages and they tell me i got right rotation and talents.

maybe you should just accept that blizzard nerfed fire to the ground and just don't care about any pointer on it... we are 100-250.000 DPS behind other specs... (if you have the right lengendaries, if you don't have them... yes... its far more

otoh... seeing your logs...
- you die.. stop dying? ;-)
- you do not consume all heating up procs ? same for comb, FB, phoenix,... and so on... you should use spells when it is time for them. your active time is ~80% which is really low...

so for you you ended up in a worst spec and play it wrong :-(

Looks like you are not really used to rotation and gameplay. try to practise these on dummies or in low level dungeons or even LFR... at least you should start to not die on mechanics.

regards,
/p

[Deleted]

Some simple tips:
1: use the right talents for a fight. If you're struggling, just keep Conflagration Tier 1 everywhere -- less reactive play, identical damage. I do this as well.
Don't use Kindling, it's bad now. For the progression you participate in, the only changes you should be making are: Meteor (single target) or Cinderstorm (multi target) // Unstable Magic (single target) or Living Bomb (multi target). Yes, if you struggle, Rune of Power is not worth taking over Mirror Images, just stick to those.

2: ABC. Always Be Casting! While casting Fireball, if you have a Heating Up, cast Fire Blast during cast and launch FB>Pyro instant. If you don't, straight away cast FB after your finish the previous! Just keep casting. Don't stop to wait and see if you should use Phoenix Flames, just use them cleverly and don't cap them. Fireblast isn't on the GCD and can be cast during other casts, it's crucial you do this.

3: Use Diadem with Dragon's Breath on cooldown (unless you know an add wave is coming). Hardcast Pyro with bracers if you don't cap cooldowns or have any up, use shimmer to stay alive.

4: Stay alive.

You have arguably two of the BiS legendaries for NH (Scorch belt might be preferable to have as well), so you should be able to reach >75 percentiles. Apply the basics above, and then you can start looking at more advanced steps to undertake. No point trying to min/max a Rune of Power if you're still struggling with the priority/procs.

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watch orher bosses on my logs, i using tallents 1,1,1,1,3,2,3, and as u say i change first tallent to conflagration.

i trying now my char on dummies, i do 100mln(dmg) and its only 440dps ;/
i wery carefoul watch on my rotation(and i use maxdps addon) and use every single 0,1second and thats best what i can do;/ and thats with pot(+1300int, do raid before and forgot cancel).
i using dragon breath every cd
and puro with braces sometimes as u say when dont have other up.
im trying to not die and usualy i dont do that.

someone say its because my items have wrog stats
eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Dzikitom/simple thats my armory

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watch orher bosses on my logs, i using tallents 1,1,1,1,3,2,3, and as u say i change first tallent to conflagration.

i trying now my char on dummies, i do 100mln(dmg) and its only 440dps ;/
i wery carefoul watch on my rotation(and i use maxdps addon) and use every single 0,1second and thats best what i can do;/ and thats with pot(+1300int, do raid before and forgot cancel).
i using dragon breath every cd
and puro with braces sometimes as u say when dont have other up.
im trying to not die and usualy i dont do that.

someone say its because my items have wrog stats
eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/Dzikitom/simple thats my armory

Wow, no. You have a lot of crit, that's good. You're heavy on mastery which should be haste now, but it's definitely not terrible.

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now i was be on nighthold hc and i do 970kdps on scopyrion, 400k on anomaly and 380k on trillax ;/

[Ilara]

now i was be on nighthold hc and i do 970kdps on scopyrion, 400k on anomaly and 380k on trillax ;/

I have similar issues. When there's plenty of adds I'm rocking the damage meters. On single target fihts I have to scroll quite a way down to find myself

[Atherius]

ABC: Always be casting. Minimize downtime and always do the fireball-> fireblast/pyro(if procd) rotation outside combuston. Use scorch if you really have to move, but try to move as much as possible with shimmer. Another thing is talents. Use conflag for everything since it simplifies things and is almost as good on ST. Never use kindling. Switch between meteor and cinderstorm depending on the ammount of cleave. You should also use RoP on some encounters with cleave, but if you're already struggling with rotation i'd stick with MI even though it's a dps loss on cleave.

[Deleted]

fact is, even if you alway cast your dmg is going to generally be lower than others, basically, if you're playing a mage then you're already at a disadvantage, it is usually not a player problem but rather a class problem and you cant make up for that by playing better.

[Bamsillo]

fact is, even if you alway cast your dmg is going to generally be lower than others, basically, if you're playing a mage then you're already at a disadvantage, it is usually not a player problem but rather a class problem and you cant make up for that by playing better.

in this guy case, he is CLEARLY doing something wrong, he states that he is doing shitty DPS, not that the the "MAGE" class is shitty, he is doing less than 20% on most of the fights for his ilvl, yes is true, mages are a bit low in the dps chart, but still, he want to fix his rotation and increase his max ilvl output on fights.

There's a lot of post about people talking shit about mage dps, dont make this another one.

[Salystra]

MI increases with stat sticks, id drop the skovold trinket personally.

[Elboba]

I have an 875 Stat stick int/vers
Sounds horrible cause its a PVP trinket, but it sims the highest and I cant complain about my dps.
I got all the right legendaries and raid with lower ilvl players lol

[Imaskar]

fact is, even if you alway cast your dmg is going to generally be lower than others, basically, if you're playing a mage then you're already at a disadvantage, it is usually not a player problem but rather a class problem and you cant make up for that by playing better.

No you can.

[mrgreenthump]

No you can.

What exactly are you trying to prove with that? Your other DPS are horrible and you got the belt + bracers combo for legendaries.

Sure you played "better", but you are just highlighting how bad Fire Mages are atm even with 2 BiS legendaries.

[Imaskar]

He said "you cant make up for that by playing better.", I showed that you have to play 14% better to make up for spec handicap.

9% better is not enough

[Manabomb]

What exactly are you trying to prove with that? Your other DPS are horrible and you got the belt + bracers combo for legendaries.

Sure you played "better", but you are just highlighting how bad Fire Mages are atm even with 2 BiS legendaries.

Is that really highlighting anything though? It's one log of one fight. Fire Mages are far from shit. Perhaps you're thinking destro warlock (aka respec afflic you fool.)

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Mirror image

[Deleted]

No you can.

so your 89% parse equals a rogue @ 55% ... congratulations for pointing out at which level fire mages are compared to all the others.

go troll others, here's your fish: <(.)[][]]]<

/p

[Imaskar]

warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/20484279/latest#boss=1849 if u can tell me what is wrong with my char.
...
Simulationcraft tell i should make 480k dps
...
artifact=54:0:0:0:0:748:1:749:3:750:3:751:3:752:3:753:3:754:3:755:3:756:3:757:3:758:1:759: 1:760:1:761:1:762:1:763:1:1340:1:1372:7

Adding to above posters, you sim youself with 54 artifact traits (and I'm not sure what relics), but only actually have 35. This is a huge difference - 10%.

[Deleted]

Stating that a certain class/spec is bad is completely irrelevant to the point. What matters is how you do compared to other players within your class. Being in the absolute top is a bit of a bitch now with all the RNG related to it, but >50 should be possible even with non-ideal items. I'm still stuck with a shitty trinket myself, and no second dps legendary (bracers+chest). I also only just reached 48 Traits myself.
I had 980k on mythic Skorp, 723k on Chrono and 538k on Trilliax (Mages are our main cake/bot soakers). Sure it ain't perfect, but it's not at the bottom and the boss dies.

What the guy above says is very true though, you're missing (52-35)x0,5=8,5% fire damage by not having a maxed out weapon.