MU Gul'dan's Body in the Tomb of Sargeras

[anaxie]

Lore is broken. Why else would the Burning Legion have killed MU Gul'dan when they could've used him to conquer Azeroth during the second war? It doesn't really make a lot of sense.

It's explained in the Audio books. There WERE using him. Then he left Orgrim at their battle on the Eve of Victory and fucked the entire War up.

So they killed him when he went into the tomb seeking HIS prize.

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It's explained in the Audio books. There WERE using him. Then he left Orgrim at their battle on the Eve of Victory and fucked the entire War up.

So they killed him when he went into the tomb seeking HIS prize.

Wouldn't it make more sense to let MU Gul'dan open the portal at the Tomb of Sargeras just like his AU self did? They could even kill him off afterwards. But no, the Legion deliberately f*cks up their own goal out of spite.

[FelPlague]

Wow wtf is wrong with the morons on this forum? Who actually gives a damn what the title was lol, this is for lore discussion not bitching at anaxie for the sake of it. These people are pathetic.

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Because MU GD had his own plans and turned against the Legion. Its almost like you havent played WC3 or listened to the Legion audiobooks and have literally no idea what you are talking about.

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Does anyone actually give a damn what OP made the title? Like it literally does not matter. Spend less time being a wannabe internet edgelord detective and more time actually discussing lore in the LORE DISCUSSION forums.

what is there to discuss, the op said "look what i found" ok so what? what is there to discuss?

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Did you find him, or did Wowhead? OR are you in a habit of watermarking your own screenshots with their logo?

it was also posted on reddit a week or so ago

[FelPlague]

it was also posted on reddit a week or so ago

he is talking about how the op said "i found guldan" then linked a screenshot, directly from wowhead

so a better title would have been

"guldans body found in tomb of sargeras"

not
" I found guldan"

[MrLachyG]

this is makes me think, wow the lore really is broken as fuck, demons ripped gul'dan apart but now in this universe another gul'dan wasn't ripped apart by them, but commands them instead.

this crappy multiverse stuff ugh.

MU Gul'dan screwed the Legion over - hence got ripped apart.
AU Gul'dan is not screwing the Legion over - hence he is in command

[FelPlague]

this is makes me think, wow the lore really is broken as fuck, demons ripped gul'dan apart but now in this universe another gul'dan wasn't ripped apart by them, but commands them instead.

this crappy multiverse stuff ugh.

you should maybe think about the lore before you talk about the lore

as said above ^^^^^^

in our universe he was commanded to help lead the horde to wipe out azeroths forces, but he ditched the horde, brought some of his forced to the tomb, causing the horde to lose the war so the demons seeing him as having betrayed them murdered him

in the AU he has been working his best for them, and hasent strained

[Kokolums]

Ooo. I was hoping his corpse would be in the tomb.



That shows how bad a lot of the WoW community is. DC and Marvel do multiple universes and no one cares. Warcraft does it, and people act like it's a crime against humanity.

Actually, I don't care about the comic book universes because of the multiverse and all the reboots.

[bloodmoth13]

Wouldn't it make more sense to let MU Gul'dan open the portal at the Tomb of Sargeras just like his AU self did? They could even kill him off afterwards. But no, the Legion deliberately f*cks up their own goal out of spite.

Depends what guldans goals were, thats assuming that he was planning on fulfilling the legions plans, AU guldan in the audio drama was tempted by the power in the tomb, he reluctantly opened the portal for the legion while mulling over the idea of harnessing the power in the tomb for himself, MU guldan would have almost certainly robbed the tomb rather than open a portal for the legion.

[MonsieuRoberts]

lul I come back and snarky OP is banned.

Of course.

[Mgann-Morzz]

Depends what guldans goals were, thats assuming that he was planning on fulfilling the legions plans, AU guldan in the audio drama was tempted by the power in the tomb, he reluctantly opened the portal for the legion while mulling over the idea of harnessing the power in the tomb for himself, MU guldan would have almost certainly robbed the tomb rather than open a portal for the legion.

Yeah there's pretty much no chance Gul'Dan would of used the Tomb for anything but his own power and enrichment if it wasn't for the sort of warning "hey you tried this shit before and it didn't go well" AU Gul'Dan got, even then he only gave that power up to open the portal reluctantly. It's simply in Gul'dans nature to be purely selfish and power hungry, Kil'jeaden wasn't wrong about that at all. Gul'Dan at his core, all versions of him is a purely selfish character, he'd screw over ANYONE if it meant a chance at greater power for himself, he's someone willing to sell out his entire race purely for personal power. The only reason AU Gul'Dan opened the portal instead of keeping the power for himself was because he knew the Legion would come for HIM if he didn't.


A lot of Warcraft villains have some kind of tragic origin, or rationale that you can kinda make sense of, hell even Sargeras. But Gul'Dan? No he is at his very core just an utterly vile person and everything he's ever done was in persuit of more and more personal power no matter who he had to screw over. Azshara is much the same way, though she's more loyal to her masters than Gul'dan is. O and the Old Gods + Void Lords of course since their pretty much literal darkness given physical and sentient form.

[FelPlague]

lul I come back and snarky OP is banned.

Of course.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...2#post44658232
here is why
the last line is why :P
so, so right

[bloodmoth13]

Yeah there's pretty much no chance Gul'Dan would of used the Tomb for anything but his own power and enrichment if it wasn't for the sort of warning "hey you tried this shit before and it didn't go well" AU Gul'Dan got, even then he only gave that power up to open the portal reluctantly. It's simply in Gul'dans nature to be purely selfish and power hungry, Kil'jeaden wasn't wrong about that at all. Gul'Dan at his core, all versions of him is a purely selfish character, he'd screw over ANYONE if it meant a chance at greater power for himself, he's someone willing to sell out his entire race purely for personal power. The only reason AU Gul'Dan opened the portal instead of keeping the power for himself was because he knew the Legion would come for HIM if he didn't.


A lot of Warcraft villains have some kind of tragic origin, or rationale that you can kinda make sense of, hell even Sargeras. But Gul'Dan? No he is at his very core just an utterly vile person and everything he's ever done was in persuit of more and more personal power no matter who he had to screw over. Azshara is much the same way, though she's more loyal to her masters than Gul'dan is. O and the Old Gods + Void Lords of course since their pretty much literal darkness given physical and sentient form.

Yeah pretty much, though guldan did have a shit origin, where he was a weak cripple in a society that only respected power.

Not that i actually care if he had a sad story to tell, not every villain needs to be relatable, its nice to have just a flat out bastard from time to time.

[NightHaawk]

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...2#post44658232
here is why
the last line is why :P
so, so right

Would be really nice if you stopped derailing this thread with your hard on for anaxie

[FelPlague]

Would be really nice if you stopped derailing this thread with your hard on for anaxie

would be really nice if you let people talk :3

[NightHaawk]

would be really nice if you let people talk :3

All you are doing is talking shit, no place for that in the lore forums. Who am I kidding its MMO Champion this place is fabled as pure cancer by the entire WoW community. You are just contributing to the cancer.

[munkeyinorbit]

A better title would be "Someone on Wowhead found Gul'dan's body and took a screen shot. Picture inside"

A more correct title would be "Loser tries to pass off other people's work as his own, gets called out but claims not to care with multiple posts declaring that he doesn't care" or maybe "Donald Trump Makes a Thread".

[NightHaawk]

A more correct title would be "Loser tries to pass off other people's work as his own, gets called out but claims not to care with multiple posts declaring that he doesn't care" or maybe "Donald Trump Makes a Thread".

Everyone going on about it for 4 pages seem to care about it a lot more than OP tbh. If the mods of this place had any integrity this shitfest of a thread would have been deleted on the first page.

[Drefanator]

Surprisingly funny.

Nothing is as funny as the Lich King photoshop thread though. Don't think it can ever be beat.

Everytime I load into Northrend. I think about that Subway.

[MonsieuRoberts]

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...2#post44658232
here is why
the last line is why :P
so, so right

LOL.

See Signature.