More supports in next months?

[Nerraw]

This week should be an teaser for next hero right? I kinda imagne D2 paladin as warrior than support due to his offensive talents in D2. But what about Ithrael?

It won't happen this week. The total time between Lucio and the next hero will be four weeks. How do I know this? Both the season and the event end on March 13th. No way they'll release a hero a week before that.

[ophion1990]

Well, I would like to see all Archangels anyway! I think they are just way too cool looking. However, both Imperius and Malthael have very different looks in comparison to other Angels so I don't think they would add too much of the same.

It's not just looks, it's how the character feels aswell. Imperius probably feels more like a Varian than Tyrael and Malthael is probably closer to Arthas. Compare that to the D2 pala/Kormac/Johanna etc, they all seem more like 2 sides of the same coin to me.

As for Itherael, IDK. He's probably the least noteable angel since he seems to kinda follow Tyrael's mindset and kinda seems like he was pretty passive aswell. Auriel was mostly unknown aswell and she worked out great though, so we'll see, I guess. :d

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I hope for more supports

[breadisfunny]

What they really need are diablo characters. Where the hell are Mephisto, Baal, Duriel, Andariel, or Duriel? Cain?

uhm wouldn't mephisto be more of a ranged assassin or specialist type hero? baal and duriel would be more warrior types. also you mentioned duriel twice. andariel would be another melee assassin like kerrigan.

[RH92]

uhm wouldn't mephisto be more of a ranged assassin or specialist type hero? baal and duriel would be more warrior types. also you mentioned duriel twice. andariel would be another melee assassin like kerrigan.

I don't understand why people think Baal could be a Warrior.

To me he seems very fragile looking and he is Lord of Destruction. He was always about total war and raw power, so I guess a next sieging Specialist could easily be him.

[De Lupe]

uhm wouldn't mephisto be more of a ranged assassin or specialist type hero? baal and duriel would be more warrior types. also you mentioned duriel twice. andariel would be another melee assassin like kerrigan.

Honestly, I think Andariel would make a better Kerrigan skin than a hero.

Also, Baal would be best suited as a specialist. He's way too fragile to be a Warrior.

[Stormcall]

Honestly, I think Andariel would make a better Kerrigan skin than a hero.

Also, Baal would be best suited as a specialist. He's way too fragile to be a Warrior.

In terms of looks, yeah, Andariel would be good as a Kerrigan skin...unfortunately Andy's abilities have nothing in common with Kerrigan's, so it would really seem odd to see Andariel leaping at people and generating shields and summoning whatever they replaced the Ultralisk with...

But yeah, Baal doesn't strike me as a warrior. He could be an assassin, but specialist seems a better choice. Now Duriel, sure, he could be a warrior, but not Baal.

[ttak82]

I heard some rumors, that Blizzard state that will start releasing more supports after Lucio.

Any idea it is true or not?

A CM stated in a post that they had some more supports planned for 2017. This was the post about the timing of all those Warcraft assassins.

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/hero...ic/20752651047

[De Lupe]

In terms of looks, yeah, Andariel would be good as a Kerrigan skin...unfortunately Andy's abilities have nothing in common with Kerrigan's, so it would really seem odd to see Andariel leaping at people and generating shields and summoning whatever they replaced the Ultralisk with...

Kerrigan/Andariel is another case of Nova/Widowmaker; characters who may not necessarily play the same, but are similar enough to each other to not justify creating a separate slot for them. Even if we ignore the physical similarities, Nova doesn't have an Infrared Camera or Poison Mines, nor does Widowmaker have an Orbital Nuke or Holo-Decoys, yet they were put into the game as the same character because within the context of the Nexus, they were the same role.

Could they have made them different? Yes. Instead of a stealth mechanic, they could have given her a grapple hook escape that would let her climb over terrain, hidden poison proximity mines instead of holo-decoys, an Infrared Heroic that gave her vision of all enemies on the map, etc... And that would definitely have given her a unique play style from Nova, but she'd still essentially be a second Nova; hit-and-run, ambush sniper. Look at the other ambush characters. Other than being ambush characters, they all have different roles. Zeratul is a melee hit-and-run, Valeera is about controlling her target (every CC in the game except root,) and Samuro is about using his illusions to confuse and distract while he chips their health away. Widowmaker would have been another Nova, which is why she became a skin instead of a hero. And I feel the same way about Andariel.

Bare in mind, I'm not saying I don't want Andariel to have her own slot. I do. The more heroes the better. But, looking at it from a design perspective, I'm just not sure she will.

• She's already got a strike against her as she looks very similar to Kerrigan. Every character has to look unique enough to be quickly identified in a fight. Admittedly, it CAN be done (Tychus/Raynor,) so it's not a MAJOR obstacle. But it is one to take into account.
• And then there's the alternative skins to consider. There's only so many variations that can be done with Kerrigan's design alone, but then Andariel would essentially double how quickly they burn through them.
• As for her abilities, what does she offer that would justify a separate slot? If my memory is correct, she didn't exactly have a plethora of attacks in D2. And her most notable one (Poison Nova) is taken by Xul. Didn't she also have a fireball nova? (Been a while since I played D2.) If so, it would basically be Diablo's Fire Stomp. Poison on auto attacks? That's Lunara and Nazeebo. That's not to say they couldn't make adjustments to those to make them usable for her (melee range frontal cone poison arc or fireball skillshot,) but what would she really bring with those? Maybe make her more of a melee mage type character? Most of her damage comes from her abilities, but she fights in melee range? It could work, perhaps.

Didn't mean for this to become a wall of text.

Again, I'm not saying I want her to be a skin. I just see it as the most likely outcome for Andariel. I hope to be proven wrong. But, until then, paint Maelstrom green to give it more of a poison-y appearance and replace the Ultralisk with a Hellhound. Re-skin the blades (E) and claws (W) to more of a Diablo art style and Andariel would be a fine Kerrigan skin.

[Stormcall]

Paint Maelstrom green to give it more of a poison-y appearance and replace the Ultralisk with a Hellhound. Re-skin the blades (E) and claws (W) to more of a Diablo-demon style and Andariel would be a fine Kerrigan skin.

But would play nothing at all like Andariel, whose whole schtick in Diablo 2 is poison damage over time. Even less so than Nova and Widowmaker, who at least both use Snipe as their primary attack.

[De Lupe]

But would play nothing at all like Andariel, whose whole schtick in Diablo 2 is poison damage over time. Even less so than Nova and Widowmaker, who at least both use Snipe as their primary attack.

^You replied while I was editing.

[Stormcall]

Bare in mind, I'm not saying I don't want Andariel to have her own slot. I do. The more heroes the better. But, looking at it from a design perspective, I'm just not sure she will.

• She's already got a strike against her as she looks very similar to Kerrigan. Every character has to look unique enough to be quickly identified in a fight. Admittedly, it CAN be done (Tychus/Raynor,) so it's not a MAJOR obstacle. But it is one to take into account.
• And then there's the alternative skins to consider. There's only so many variations that can be done with Kerrigan's design alone, but then Andariel would essentially double how quickly they burn through them.
• As for her abilities, what does she offer that would justify a separate slot? If my memory is correct, she didn't exactly have a plethora of attacks in D2. And her most notable one (Poison Nova) is taken by Xul. Didn't she also have a fireball nova? (Been a while since I played D2.) If so, it would basically be Diablo's Fire Stomp. Poison on auto attacks? That's Lunara and Nazeebo. That's not to say they couldn't make adjustments to those to make them usable for her (melee range frontal cone poison arc or fireball skillshot,) but what would she really bring with those? Maybe make her more of a melee mage type character? Most of her damage comes from her abilities, but she fights in melee range? It could work, perhaps.

Yeah, I just killed her(200 FCR sorc makes it fast), and I realize Andariel doesn't actually have a lot of abilities. She has a poison spray(basically a cone AOE), poison applied by autoattacks(which would be melee, unlike Lunara and Nazeebo, and should definitely be more potent than Zeebo's), and that's all. No fireball attack, she's actually vulnerable to fire in fact. One of her melee attacks does have her essentially strike with all of her...appendages? Maybe have that apply a slow or something.

Duriel kinda has the same troubles. He's got a charge that knockbacks(which Diablo has), Smite(a melee attack that stuns, which Valeera has), and his Holy Freeze aura that slows and deals small damage to everything near him(which Arthas has), and that's it.

Baal OTOH has a lot of options. He's got a fireball nova, his wave of cold attack that knocks enemies back and slows them, a mana burning melee attack, can apply a curse that causes enemies to pay their spell costs with their life instead of their mana, can teleport, can summon vile tendrils, and can generate a clone of himself. Gives you a lot of options to pull from with him.

[De Lupe]

Duriel kinda has the same troubles. He's got a charge that knockbacks(which Diablo has), Smite(a melee attack that stuns, which Valeera has), and his Holy Freeze aura that slows and deals small damage to everything near him(which Arthas has), and that's it.

I see Duriel being in the same spot as Andariel. Not enough to work with to make his own slot, but he'd make a great Anub skin.

Baal OTOH has a lot of options. He's got a fireball nova, his wave of cold attack that knocks enemies back and slows them, a mana burning melee attack, can apply a curse that causes enemies to pay their spell costs with their life instead of their mana, can teleport, can summon vile tendrils, and can generate a clone of himself. Gives you a lot of options to pull from with him.

Oh yea. Definitely specialist territory.

Melee Specialist

• Trait - Passive - Mana Burn - Baal's auto attacks burn .5% of the targets maximum mana.
• Q - Fireball - A low damage, cheap mana, quick moving skillshot. Damages minions, but passes through them. Explodes when it hits a hero. Can be talented for additional perks.
• W - Vile Tendril - Baal summons a vile tendril that will flail in an area, damaging all enemies it hits. Deals extra damage against buildings? Can't be targeted?
• E - Life Leech - Enemy target's spells now take half their cost from the hero's health pool instead of their mana pool. Lasts 5 seconds? 20 second CD?
• Heroic - Frozen Nova - All enemies are knocked away and have their movement speed reduced by 50% decaying over 2-3 seconds. 20 upgrade could be 100% slow.
• Heroic2 - Duplicate - Baal clones himself. The clone will mimic Baal's spells at 50% damage, can be re-positioned with R (like the Ultralisk), and lasts 20ish seconds. If Baal is killed while the clone is active, the clone dies in his place and he is healed for 100% of the clone's remaining health. 20 upgrade could up it's damage to 100%.

I'm sure someone else could clean that up a bit and BOOM! Baal is in the Nexus. ^_^

Got one for the Cow King too. He'd make a great Warrior.

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I think they release the different character types depending on the current meta. Or, maybe if they want to introduce some new metas along the way. Just offtopic, how is Lucio faring along?