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  1. #441
    Quote Originally Posted by Begrudge View Post
    but their unalienable rights give them the right to live, whether you agree to let them live or not they have that right, correct?
    Nope. No one has the right to life by using another's body without their continuous consent.

    All people have the right to life by them not being killed by another.

    The fact that they need to use another's body in order to live doesn't entitle them to life.

    They must have continuous consent from the body of the owner to use the body of the owner in order to live that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    Nope. No one has the right to life by using another's body without their continuous consent.
    i didnt ask that take the question at face value
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    Agreement to have coitus is just agreement for just that, nothing more.
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    Those damn liberal colleges! Can you believe they brainwash people into thinking murder is wrong! And don't get me started with all that critical thinking bullshit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anevers View Post
    Agreement to have coitus is just agreement for just that, nothing more.
    your arguments are nonsense, thy are law, obviously im arguing against laws, either get in with us about why the laws are the way they are, whichj is why we are arguing or get out of the converwsation, because ur words literally are just there, they have no major consequence on whether they are right or not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Begrudge View Post
    i didnt ask that take the question at face value
    I don't care what you asked.

    I told you how your right to life actually works.

    It doesn't work by you using the body of another without their continuous consent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    I don't care what you asked.

    I told you how your right to life actually works.

    It doesn't work by you using the body of another without their continuous consent.
    it your life is not at risk you have no right to take another persons life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Begrudge View Post
    it your life is not at risk you have no right to take another persons life.
    No one's life is being taken. It is being removed from the use of another's body. The fact that it can't live without the use of another's body is why it will die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    No one's life is being taken. It is being removed from the use of another's body. The fact that it can't live without the use of another's body is why it will die.
    and the fact that YOU brought it into this world knowing that it would NEED your body to survive is why your being charged with a CRIME
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    Quote Originally Posted by Begrudge View Post
    YOU brought it into this world
    So? That doesn't give you the right to decide it can retain the use of my body. I decide if it can retain the use of my body or not, not you.

    There is no crime besides you thinking my right to bodily autonomy is yours to decide for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    So? That doesn't give you the right to decide it can retain the use of my body. I decide if it can retain the use of my body or not, not you.

    There is no crime besides you thinking my right to bodily autonomy is yours to decide for me.
    no its that you decide that the person that needs it, that wont kill you, that you created, that is no one elses obligation, but, your own, you are removing from the only thing that will keep it alive. That is illegal, in every sense except for the abolition that is the abortion law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Begrudge View Post
    its that you decide that the person that needs it...that is no one else's obligation, but, your own
    I don't decide it needs it. What something needs to live or not is not my decision. That's biology.

    My decision is to allow it to retain the use of my body or not.

    I have no obligation to allow anyone to retain the use of my body.

    That is what the right to bodily autonomy is - to be the SOLE decider of who retains the use of your body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    I don't decide it needs it. What something needs to live or not is not my decision. That's biology.

    My decision is to allow it to retain the use of my body or not.
    what ur body is or isnt is not your decision, it isnt your own, ur brains workings are not your own, its biology
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    Quote Originally Posted by Begrudge View Post
    what ur body is or isnt your decision isnt your own, ur brains workings are not your own, its biology
    MY brain, not yours, decides who retains the use of my body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    MY brain, not yours, decides who retains the use of my body.
    So, if my brain decides to theoretically kill you, theres nothing that makes that wrong because my brain came up with it and DECIDED IT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tota View Post
    MY brain, not yours, decides who retains the use of my body.
    I am so confused as to what is even going on in this argument anymore!

    And with that said, to be more on topic, stupid bill between two parties who enjoy triggering each other. Their body, their choice, female or male really, just in terms of babies it only applies to one...so far...science.

  16. #456
    Quote Originally Posted by Begrudge View Post
    if my brain decides to theoretically kill you, there's nothing that makes that wrong
    If you decide to not allow me to use your body when I need it in order to live, you are not killing me, you are letting me die.

    If my body was hooked up to your body because your body is my only life support, you can remove your body from being hooked up to me and let me die, LEGALLY, because you have the right to be the ONLY one to decide WHO can or can not use your body at ANY TIME.
    Last edited by Total Crica; 2017-02-21 at 06:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Begrudge View Post
    your arguments are nonsense, thy are law, obviously im arguing against laws, either get in with us about why the laws are the way they are, whichj is why we are arguing or get out of the converwsation, because ur words literally are just there, they have no major consequence on whether they are right or not
    My arguments are rooted in the law which has already been decided by the courts who had better arguments than what you have put forward.

    Further more I'll think I'll continue to add my two cents whether you want me to or not.
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    this is gonna way off topic.. Ya'll are fucking insane. One side promotes literal baby killing because "it's a big responsibility to have a child" the other side promotes " you will have that child no matter the consequence!"

    I have two children, we were totally unprepared for the first the second was by choice, I didn't want a abortion even though was totally unprepared. Guess what we did we got prepared. How every if there was an issue with the baby that would have caused problems with my wife or the child would have suffered in life I would have obviously thought abortion is the best choice..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anevers View Post
    My arguments are rooted in the law which has already been decided by the courts who had better arguments than what you have put forward.

    Further more I'll think I'll continue to add my two cents whether you want me to or not.
    if the mothers life is not at risk then there is no reason to take that childs life
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    So...um...what if I'm not married? Was that answered yet?

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