Breitbart employees threaten exit over Yiannopoulos

[Skroe]

Arr well I agree with you on most of what you said since I don't like him either but I will not fall for media tricks like you have because of bias against somebody which is why so much of the left is deluded and brainwashed against President Trump. To me he is a useful idiot because of the damage the left has done in much of the western world that any support for us is good support. At least he admits that fashy minded people are right which is more than what most of the (((alt right))) has said.

First, if I have not made it clear enough, I am of the right. And I want Milo and people like him basically excommunicated from it back to the lunatic fringe whence they came. They are not acceptable. Their beliefs and behavior are not acceptable. Period. They are extremists, not rational. And we are not and will never be a country of extremists. We are a country of moderation and thought, not of visceral emotions.

Damage the left has done to the western world? Are you kidding me? Is this some kind of thing against illegal immigration? Against Feminism? Against "Globalism"? Against liberal professors? The usual and cliche Milo hit list of nonsense?

You do realize that it was George W. Bush's administration, Republicans, of the the right... with men like Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz and Elliot Cohen (who was just up to be Trump's Deputy Secretary of State)... who masterminded the Iraq War, which led to the conditions that created the greatest mass migrations of World War II.

With all due respect, you betray extreme political ignorance. There exists in the world, no school of politics or philosophical school of thought, that has managed to comprehensively and optimally address all modes of human existence with consistency. Life... the world... time... is too complicated for that level of uniformity.

The right... conservatism... has answers to a great many things things. But not all things. The same goes for the left, with home we share this country and Western civilization. The left is not the enemy of the right. They are our fellow travelers. We disagree. But we need each other,. We have both claims to tremendous successes, but also enormous failures. We must be honest about that. We must own it if we are to avoid future ones.

[Underverse]

Everything related to this issue is anecdotal evidence. The typical argument, "What if the elder person seduces you and uses you?!", is just as "logical" as, "What if that immigrant we import turns out to be terrorist?! Better close the door!" There are cases when it happens, and there are cases when it does not happen, but in controlling cultures (which are all civilized cultures nowadays, AFAIK) people decide to pick ethereal security over real freedom, and not only for themselves, but for everyone else.

Personally, I don't care if a 8 y/o girl has a relationship, even sexual, with a 60 y/o dude. If the dude uses her, then it always can be brought to the court. If not, then it is nobody's business. The whole "age of sexual consent" thing is nonsense, IMO.

But I know that saying this nowadays means that everybody, regardless of the political leanings, hates me, because one isn't allowed to have unconventional opinions.

I think you're in a growing minority. As they say, history repeats; if we look at biology, I think it's clear that it's only a matter of time before public opinion changes on this topic, of course slowly at first, and in small steps.

[Skroe]

What's it like being a buttmad little cockroach?

It's fine if you don't agree with his brand or his tactics - I think he was extremely stupid to have touched this subject on a live show in particular; feel free to speak out against his arguments all you like. To dispense with the truth and say "I don't care" if it furthers your own hate-based goals is just p a t h e t i c. Don't talk about principled conservatism if you're happy to also peddle and perpetuate bullshit to satisfy your own ego.

Milo, pedophilia advocate, made his bed, long, long, long before this fun little episode in self immolation.

The phrase for this is poetic justice.

He just didn't touch the third rail. He he grafted rods of uranium to himself. He will be untouchable after this. Brietbart will be insane not to fire his ass in the next day or so.


Burn baby burn.

[May90]

Another defender of pedophilia and sexual predators, cool.

Oh, boy, here we go, back to the kindergarten level...

[Underverse]

That's all you have? Personal attacks? You're literally defending pedophilia. More clearly than most other of the posters here.

Really? More clearly than I am? I'm insulted.

[Deletedaccount1]

At the very least, Its good to see people taking a stand on something. I wasn't aware of the site when it was reputable; just became aware of it over the course of the campaign like everyone else after it had gone to hell--but it sure would be nice to see the ugliness flushed out and sturdiness re-assert itself, if it was like that before.

It'll never happen now. Andrew Breitbart's name has been permanently tarnished I think. He was a controversial figure when he was alive, but he was a good person and people across the spectrum respected him for being honest and encouraging truth seeking in the media.

Bannon's made sure that his legacy will never recover.

[Underverse]

I don't know if I would consider you defending it. But to go as far as saying



Is definitely defending it.

I see. I'm afraid I err towards May90's opinion on this. Physical abuse, emotional abuse, and other similar crimes are still crimes. The age of the perpetrator is largely irrelevant.

[Skroe]

I'm starting to think that should be a new title under certain posters name's on this forum.

Indeed. And you know what the funny part is? There is nothing more American than burning down statues of your heroes. If I was one of these guys, I would have thrown Milo under the bus pages ago.

Or maybe it's pride... pride in that they've been had by a con artist and just can't cut him off without losing face.

Guess what fellas: you can. There are much smarter, more serious advocates for some of Milo's more meaningful agenda items.

As I said, there are Roomba's more intellectual than that foreign monkey.

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It'll never happen now. Andrew Breitbart's name has been permanently tarnished I think. He was a controversial figure when he was alive, but he was a good person and people across the spectrum respected him for being honest and encouraging truth seeking in the media.

Bannon's made sure that his legacy will never recover.

Andrew Breitbart would be horrified at what Breitbart has become. He would have been right there, with #NeverTrump I think.

[May90]

I think you're in a growing minority. As they say, history repeats; if we look at biology, I think it's clear that it's only a matter of time before public opinion changes on this topic, of course slowly at first, and in small steps.

I think this one might take a while to get through... People still harshly oppose incest, even though practically it is no different from "regular" sex. Cultural and religious taboos are strong, and even the most independently thinking people tend to be somewhat restricted by them - I know I am.

That's all you have? Personal attacks? You're literally defending pedophilia. More clearly than most other of the posters here.

Personal attack is what you responded with. I'm not "defending pedophilia", I'm defending people's right to do any private consensual activities without discrimination by any property: religion, race, gender, nationality, ethnicity, sexual orientation, age. This concept of freedom which so many people dislike, because they want to shape the society in their image, not caring about the individual's uniqueness.

[KrazyK923]

Or maybe it's pride... pride in that they've been had by a con artist and just can't cut him off without losing face.

There definitely is SOME of this going on. Some anti-SJW people I know just knee-jerk immediately lept to Milo's defense and then continually ignored any other kind of statements from him since the one, most popular clip, ended slightly before the entire bit in question. Not that the entire bit in its full changed anything, but that is what they latched onto.

Its the same people who when GamerGate was happening I kept trying to warn to not become pro-Milo people, as he was just using the controversy for attention. But they hitched their wagons to them. Especially the most popular anti-SJW youtube channels, except perhaps the amazing atheist. So now they HAVE to defend him or else they lose face and seem suckered by this douchebag.

[Garnier Fructis]

Surprised Lena Dunham and her admittance of molesting of her underage Sister was accepted but Milo joking about being Molested is over the line for Lefties.

And even more whataboutism. What she did was reprehensible. But are we seriously going to compare a child to an adult?

[downnola]

It'll never happen now. Andrew Breitbart's name has been permanently tarnished I think. He was a controversial figure when he was alive, but he was a good person and people across the spectrum respected him for being honest and encouraging truth seeking in the media.

Bannon's made sure that his legacy will never recover.

I always remember him for trashing Max Blumenthal to his face, not for what Bannon did to his media company.

[melodramocracy]

I find it pretty interesting to read that people are drawing the conclusion that he himself is a pedo (not in this thread per se, but elsewhere on the internet).

I'm also interested to know exactly who, at this point, owns the rights to his book now that it's been basically removed from publication.

[May90]

What did I say that was a personal attack?

You're fucking defending pedophilia. That's not a personal attack, that's stating a fucking fact.

If defending people's right for something = defending something, then I agree with you.

In the meantime, you better not advocate for free speech, because that makes you a Nazi defender, apparently!

[Wyrt]

If defending people's right for something = defending something, then I agree with you.

In the meantime, you better not advocate for free speech, because that makes you a Nazi defender, apparently!

Free speech means the government can't do anything to you. It doesn't mean you're free from consequences from non-government agencies.

Last I checked the government isn't doing anything to Milo, but he was uninvited from a speaking event and had his book deal canceled. Neither of those violate freedom of speech.

[Mormolyce]

Even posting the entire video wouldn't really help him at this point. He won't get the book deal back. He might get to keep his job but reputation is over.

Not that I disagree but... what reputation?

[Astalnar]

So another purge at Breitbart after Michelle Fields thing? It's just six people who got fooled with the media's character assassination. Honey badger something something.

[Adolecent]

First, what was a senior editor of an ultra-right website know for it's fake news doing at CPAC anyway?
Second, what do people expect from freek-sites like Breitbart? That site is for the mentally insane, and it takes one to know one.

[Flarelaine]

Not that I disagree but... what reputation?

Bad rep is rep as well.

Now I understand Milo has always been in the business of pissing people off, but he should have taken the advice of Kirk Lazarus.

Come on, you know the one.

[May90]

Free speech means the government can't do anything to you. It doesn't mean you're free from consequences from non-government agencies.

Last I checked the government isn't doing anything to Milo, but he was uninvited from a speaking event and had his book deal canceled. Neither of those violate freedom of speech.

Oh, I wasn't defending Milo or anything. Regarding Milo, the concept "Don't talk like a madman, and people won't see you as a madman" applies.