9 Iraqis gang rape German woman, trial starts this week

[tankbug]

What race is islam?

What religion is Iraq? This story was about criminal immigrants, religious influence is implied.

[veehro]

Nope, I've lived in malaysia. You can be an atheist and you can leave islam without any penalties, although it's hard.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-re...9B900G20131210

Reuters says malaysia is on the list of countries that kills atheists

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What religion is Iraq? This story was about criminal immigrants, religious influence is implied.

The major religion in Iraq is Islam, followed by about 95% of Iraqis.

Million dollar question. if you get immigrants from iraq..what religion do you think they will be?

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I thought we were talking about muslims, not the laws of islam.. But ok.

Propably as much as the German shared his leaders vision "back in the days".
There is a term on shit like this, and it's IMO quite legit on shit like this too.
Same goes for 40 people who take video of a dying man instead of helping. People do what others around you do, because doing the opposite is a massive risk.
People who take the massive risk are brave, but often dead quite fast.

The pew research center that provides one of the best and most trustworthy statiscs in the world have this to say

http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/...-extremism-10/

[Mayhem]

Fun fact, it's not.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/racist
Synonyms:
racial bigot, racialist, xenophobe, chauvinist

[Nitro Fun]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-re...9B900G20131210

Reuters says malaysia is on the list of countries that kills atheists

Then reuters haven't actually checked the laws in the country.

[Puri]

Why not give everyone firearms? Not American style assault weapons, but if everyone had at least a pistol for example...

Yes, if everyone had a pistol it would have been much easier, this way she could have shot one assaulter before being hit by 8 bullets.

[Nitro Fun]

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/racist
Synonyms:
racial bigot, racialist, xenophobe, chauvinist

http://www.unesco.org/new/en/social-...ry/xenophobia/

[Karon]

innocent, they didn't understand consent , so we should be more tolerant


[Infracted]

and

Good old Religion of Peace™ and Gender Equality


[Infracted]

are getting infracted, but personal attacks like those

In this thread: Racist dumbfucks crying for getting infracted.

are not.

@Endus, abuser of mod power, limp dick in real life and white knight of the internetz

infracted - minor flaming

[Mayhem]

Yes yes i can be judgemental. I was born a christian and I am an atheist. If people wouldn't of criticized christianity, gays would still be discriminated, abortions would be 100% illegal, aranged mariages still a thing, atheists would still be persecuted , and non christians including muslims would defenetly not be welcomed in any christian nation.

But its because we criticized our religion that we've made so much progress.

yet for some reason there are people out there who are perfectly fine criticizing a christian for wanting to push creationism in schools, but the moment you criticize muslim groups for wanting sharia law then thats unaceptable?

You haven´t changed the religion, the countries became less religious. That is quite a difference. Christians still discriminate gays, fight abortions, arange marriages and prosecute atheists (if possible). So your point is moot.

And about the synonym... look at the previous page.

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http://www.unesco.org/new/en/social-...ry/xenophobia/

Ok?

Am i missing something? Is the oxford dictionary a worse source than the unesco on synonyms of words?!

[Nitro Fun]

Ok?

It explains the difference between racism and xenophobia. They are not synonyms.

[Cuppy]

The pew research center that provides one of the best and most trustworthy statiscs in the world have this to say

If you look at that statistic:
Gaza had the largest percentual on justifying suicide bombing attacks. (39%) For some reason I'm not surprised. They have some real shit there.
But look at the rest of the data. You can see that percent on "never" is actually quite big. Tunisia 90%, Jordan 55% and so on.
Those who justify attacks are a minority by FAR.
And one thing I couldn't find on the site. How many people were attending on this survey? I mean that is a real deal breaker in the end.
If you have 3 grapes and one is rotten, 30% of grapes are rotten. Make it 100 grapes with 1 rotten and the percent is 1%.

[Mayhem]

It explains the difference between racism and xenophobia. They are not synonyms.

Ok, so the people from the dictionaries don´t know what they´re talking about. Gotcha.

[Trollhammer]

Ok, so the people from the dictionaries don´t know what they´re talking about. Gotcha.

http://www.unesco.org/new/en/social-...ry/xenophobia/

[Vorkreist]

I don't understand these infractions. People are making correct implications given assumptions. Generalization is useful as a defense mechanism.

Undereducated SJW mods?

Welcome to Gen-OT aka Endus's Land of Social Justice. Posting about migrant crimes hurts his holy sjw canadian spirit so its a no-no.

[Mayhem]

http://www.unesco.org/new/en/social-...ry/xenophobia/

I mean...

"I´m not a racist, i´m just a xenophobe" isn´t all that better, now is it? Also go write to the dictionaries, they all got it wrong, the unesco said so kind of.

[tankbug]

The major religion in Iraq is Islam, followed by about 95% of Iraqis.

Million dollar question. if you get immigrants from iraq..what religion do you think they will be?

Hey, if you can infer this is motivated by islam, then people here are free to infer that the angry forum mobs in here are racist.

[falagar112]

Islam this, Islam that... you people... really?

Some of you need to do some theological research about "Islam" and what it actually entails. And it's different branches in the same religion.

Saying Islam is evil is like saying Christianity is evil because one only has to look at the westboro baptist church to see that they are evil reincarnated...

Overgeneralization seems to be a thing nowadays.

[Ravenblade]

I honestly don't understand progressives and athesist who for good reason recognise christianity to be opressive. But when it comes to islam they are willing to pretend people coming from RELIGIOUS THEOCRACIES are tolerant and peace abiding people. As if living in a culture where religion IS the constititution does not affect the individual in any way.

Thing is you are arguing three things: the religious doctrines, the organizations and institutions managing them and the people supposedly following them. You can judge people by their behaviours. You can judge an organization or institution for its agenda and a religious doctrine for its values. People often try to nail everything down to a common overarching theme, may it just be religion or ideology in general or a specific religion or ideology which can be tricky because religions are often a mix of confessional beliefs and local traditions and cultures as they merged together historically (hence why Ethiopian Christianity differs from Anglicanism). This doesn't work well and will always get you in a situation where you are either accused of generalization or *phobias.

Western civilization used to pride itself with beating religious doctrines with science and reason while still developing humanist ideals which are still rooted in Christian religion, same religion which managed to burn thousands of innocent men and women on stake, had crusades going on. How's that possible? Answer: It's the institutions you have to focus on when looking for the causes. These institutions had some remarkable figures and some pretty disgusting ones all who changed and steered the agendas over the centuries. Finally, the common people went with it all the time. They rarely questioned what was going on and just complied with any agenda and doctrine.

In the end Christianity is no more oppressive than any other religion in its inert state. It is not even organized. Early Christianity was a hodgepodge of wild and sometimes syncretic ideas about the character and nature of Jesus that it took centuries to get people sorted out with the help of the sword, words of power, debates, councils, intrigues, anathemas and careful exile of heretics (this is how Christianity came from Constantinople to China btw). It was the development of doctrines and organizations which made it to what it is today. The reason why people recognize the latent oppressive nature of Christian dogmatism easier than that of Islam is because it is closer to us, it is permeating our culture still even if people decided to turn away from it. Islam not as clearly organized as Christianity is and because Christianity's roots were during the Roman Empire which was basically the epitome of an organized state and the churches until today still emulate the Roman structure. Islam however was not originally identified as backwards, in fact it used to enjoy a Golden Age with a lot of scientific progresses and a fairly open and tolerant culture. What changed? The problem is that they had been stuck in a mode where they rested on laurels until, around end of WWI, the first radical movements showed up.

So, it clearly is possible for them to live in an open society like us, even a change in adherence of traditions is possible. The problem is not just falsely understood tolerance but also when to strike a balance and when not. Often greater issues precede supposedly very important but comparably minor ones and that's where most of the conflict lies. Why should I care about headscarves when the greater issue is that a group of people doesn't want to live in a democracy at all? For me that even takes a backseat to gender inequality (which is even still an issue in Western societies). I can convince them of that, no problem, but first things first.

[Kiri]

Yes yes i can be judgemental. I was born a christian and I am an atheist. If people wouldn't of criticized christianity, gays would still be discriminated, abortions would be 100% illegal, aranged mariages still a thing, atheists would still be persecuted , and non christians including muslims would defenetly not be welcomed in any christian nation.

But its because we criticized our religion that we've made so much progress.

yet for some reason there are people out there who are perfectly fine criticizing a christian for wanting to push creationism in schools, but the moment you criticize muslim groups for wanting sharia law then thats unaceptable?


"xenophobic is a synonym for racist."

Its not. Romanians are xenophobic towards russians due to the comunist ocupation. Both romanians and russians are white. Stop making up definitions.

Yes, you can criticize 'A' Muslim for wanting Sharia Law, just like you can criticize a Christian for hating on gay people. The problem in threads like this is the generalization. I for example am not about putting those criminals in jail for what they did. But I am against increasing the hate/fear towards Muslims for what they did. It is equating being Muslim with wanting Shariah Law, while not equating being Christian with hating gay people that I find hypocritical.

Welcome to Gen-OT aka Endus's Land of Social Justice. Posting about migrant crimes hurts his holy sjw canadian spirit so its a no-no.

The infracting is weird, yes, but I don't see why this thread is still open to begin with. There already was a thread about this incident like, when it happened. What new, positive discussion could come from it now? It was only opened because the op wanted to throw more old oil into the fire, it seems.

[Cuppy]

In this thread: Racist dumbfucks crying for getting infracted.

are not.
@Endus, abuser of mod power, limp dick in real life and white knight of the internetz

Hahahahahaha oh wow

[JohnBrown1917]

Why not give everyone firearms? Not American style assault weapons, but if everyone had at least a pistol for example...

The population is against it.