Why didn't Sylvanas reconquer Quel'Thalas?

[Mgann-Morzz]

To us it isn't, from her point of view inside the story it might be.

Yeah Sylvanas's relationship and feelings for her family are.. complicated. From our point of view what she was planning to do to Vareesa was crazy and evil, but from her point of view it was an act of love so they could rule as sisters forever. Her experience when she commited Suicide before she got brought back by the Val'kyr probably also radically changed her view on Undeath being a "curse" too.

As for why she didn't conquer Quel'Thalas, Sylvanas actually does still hold feelings for her homeland and people... they just weren't greater than her need for Revenge on Arthas, but she was the one who vouched repeatedly for them to be allowed into the Horde, supplied them with backup forces in the Ghostlands and supplies in general and stuff like that.

[WhiteEagle888]

Sylvanas was not the ruler of Quel'Thalas, she was the Ranger General protecting the city. Why would she then invade and attack the city, that makes no sense? Obviously she would want it to stay protected. Also, the Forsaken are all Lorderon citizens, so they'd want to stay in their own city; they made her their leader. Undercity and Quel'Thalas are allied.

I wanted to clarify something: I meant to reconquer it from the Quel'Thalas Scourge at the time she besieged the Lordaeron Scourge with Varimathras in WC3. Why go after Lordaeron when she could have taken back Quel''Thalas from the Scourge instead, and build her own kingdom there?

[Aucald]

I wanted to clarify something: I meant to reconquer it from the Quel'Thalas Scourge at the time she besieged the Lordaeron Scourge with Varimathras in WC3. Why go after Lordaeron when she could have taken back Quel''Thalas from the Scourge instead, and build her own kingdom there?

Sylvanas' overriding desire at the time was revenge on Arthas, and retaking Lordaeron from him was a part of his plan to get the vengeance she sought. Quel'thalas didn't have much to offer her in an objective sense given the High Elves had been beaten down, Silvermoon was sacked, and the Sunwell had been befouled and destroyed. There's also the more fundamental victory of taking Arthas' kingdom from him, suborning the Scourge forces he had raised there as her loyal Forsaken, and using them as arrows in her quiver to revenge herself upon her tormentor.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Sylvanas' overriding desire at the time was revenge on Arthas, and retaking Lordaeron from him was a part of his plan to get the vengeance she sought. Quel'thalas didn't have much to offer her in an objective sense given the High Elves had been beaten down, Silvermoon was sacked, and the Sunwell had been befouled and destroyed. There's also the more fundamental victory of taking Arthas' kingdom from him, suborning the Scourge forces he had raised there as her loyal Forsaken, and using them as arrows in her quiver to revenge herself upon her tormentor.

Also, she would have to march through both Plaguelands, as well as the massive amounts of scourge there. The forsaken weren't really that strong to start out with, and they have only been able to reach Quel'thalas until early bc

[Deleted]

Sylvanas still has her High Elf mind and soul? why would she kill the ppl that she protected her hole life when she was still alive?
And she got Lordaeron because the humans of Lordaeron have been killed by Arthas and ressed back as undeads that is why she connected with them.

[WhiteEagle888]

Sylvanas' overriding desire at the time was revenge on Arthas, and retaking Lordaeron from him was a part of his plan to get the vengeance she sought. Quel'thalas didn't have much to offer her in an objective sense given the High Elves had been beaten down, Silvermoon was sacked, and the Sunwell had been befouled and destroyed. There's also the more fundamental victory of taking Arthas' kingdom from him, suborning the Scourge forces he had raised there as her loyal Forsaken, and using them as arrows in her quiver to revenge herself upon her tormentor.

Very nice observation, I agree with you. Also, could she have made any attempts at all to purify the corrupted Sunwell at that time?
Why wasn't she in contact with the remaining blood elves in Quel'Thalas and aid their reconquest of her homeland from the Scourge until BC?

[Friendlyimmolation]

Very nice observation, I agree with you. Also, could she have made any attempts at all to purify the corrupted Sunwell at that time?
Why wasn't she in contact with the remaining blood elves in Quel'Thalas and aid their reconquest of her homeland from the Scourge until BC?

probably too busy dealing with the scarlets and the scourge trying to come in from the plaguelands. Kael'thas shut off the sunwell to prevent the corruption from spreading, and the blood elves kinda isolated themselves. Another reason is probably Blizzard writers weren't sure what they were going to do with the blood elves yet.

[WhiteEagle888]

probably too busy dealing with the scarlets and the scourge trying to come in from the plaguelands. Kael'thas shut off the sunwell to prevent the corruption from spreading, and the blood elves kinda isolated themselves. Another reason is probably Blizzard writers weren't sure what they were going to do with the blood elves yet.

I see. Thanks for the information.

[Aquamonkey]

The majority of the BElf population sticking around the ruins of Quel'Thalas instead of following Kael'thas was something Blizzard invented for TBC.

[Maxilian]

Keyword being live, not "undeathe" beside her for eternity. The hidden motive of Sylvanas to kill her and turn her into an undead makes it all the more heideous, especially considering Sylvanas knows very well what she experienced after she died.

The proper way to do it is to put that "natural" next step on the table and see wether the offer is accepted or not. Her character knew very well it wouldn't be accepted.

Well she does point out, that she wants her sister to rule by her side, and that her people would not accept a living creature as their leader.

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it usually comes down to "oh im so special but im tortured by my half elveness but also im really special but no one understands my pain, also im special and better at everything then anyone" Which Is why thankfully knaack never wrote anything on them.

I believe it was Chris metzen who said a while back that "half this and that" are painful to write, ill try to find it.

Do you play DnD... cause that's basically what they are... they are special but between 2 worlds (Mostly seen as trash by Elves and seen as strange creatures by humans -Humans don't necessarily have a bad opinion of them)

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Sylvanas' overriding desire at the time was revenge on Arthas, and retaking Lordaeron from him was a part of his plan to get the vengeance she sought. Quel'thalas didn't have much to offer her in an objective sense given the High Elves had been beaten down, Silvermoon was sacked, and the Sunwell had been befouled and destroyed. There's also the more fundamental victory of taking Arthas' kingdom from him, suborning the Scourge forces he had raised there as her loyal Forsaken, and using them as arrows in her quiver to revenge herself upon her tormentor.

Also i would like to point out that Lordaeron was an opportunity that presented to her, and she was smart enough to take the chance

[Zandalariprelate]

probably too busy dealing with the scarlets and the scourge trying to come in from the plaguelands. Kael'thas shut off the sunwell to prevent the corruption from spreading, and the blood elves kinda isolated themselves. Another reason is probably Blizzard writers weren't sure what they were going to do with the blood elves yet.

I think the isolation was the best thing for the blood elves considering how powerful had become again

[Zulkhan]

Sylvanas doesn't hate humans. She was in love with Nathanos Marris when he was human, and now still while he's a Forsaken.

Sylvanas was surprisingly reasonable when she was alive and way more open-minded when it came to relations with humans (even though the supposed "romance" with Nathanos is only weakly hinted but never confirmed).

Things changed drastically after Arthas and the transformation she forced upon her. From that point on she started to passionately hate humans for spawning Arthas into existence. Of course she still regards Nathanos highly as an individual, plus he's Forsaken just as much as all the rest of Sylvanas' subjects (even more so in fact, given his prestigious "Champion of the Banshee Queen" title).

[yetgdhfgh]

didnt you play wc3 and the frozen throne?

When the forsaken joined the horde it wasnt in a position to conquer anyone its only recently it has gained the power it enjoys today and now has no reason what so ever to attack quel'thalas

[chrisisvacant]

Sylvanas was surprisingly reasonable when she was alive and way more open-minded when it came to relations with humans (even though the supposed "romance" with Nathanos is only weakly hinted but never confirmed).

Things changed drastically after Arthas and the transformation she forced upon her. From that point on she started to passionately hate humans for spawning Arthas into existence. Of course she still regards Nathanos highly as an individual, plus he's Forsaken just as much as all the rest of Sylvanas' subjects (even more so in fact, given his prestigious "Champion of the Banshee Queen" title).

I would say it is more than weakly hinted at. Nathanos and Sylvanas have pretty much always been in a relationship, whether they've made it public or not. I think it would take a lot of the mystery away if they were to flatly state it. One could kind of infer that Sylvanas' bias towards Nathanos in life and then their eventual deaths to be depressingly poetic.