Public Opinion on Man-Made Climate Change Has Shifted

[Endus]

This is awfully close to you harassing me wouldn't you say? I am quite positive that is against the code of conduct.

Pointing out your public posting history is hardly "harassment". You're the one who inserted yourself, if you can't take criticism for your expressed views, you're free to not express them in public.

[Allybeboba]

Pointing out your public posting history is hardly "harassment". You're the one who inserted yourself, if you can't take criticism for your expressed views, you're free to not express them in public.

How many other people have you linked their posting history?

How many that had an opinion that differed from yours?

How many that had the same as yours?

I don't want to stray any more off topic. This will be my last post. Thank you for the conversation. We will surely have more.

[Garnier Fructis]

As a moderator he is held to higher standard than other members.
Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to get anyone in trouble. But, I will not be bullied.

Pointing out that your own words contradict you is now bullying?

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I don't want to stray any more off topic. This will be my last post. Thank you for the conversation. We will surely have more.

A surprisingly convenient excuse to not have to address any counterpoints of substance, but whatever.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

I'm actually shocked to see only 64% believe it's manmade.

Although I'm projecting. Still, glad to see it being rationalized better.

[rogueMatthias]

If nobody is going anything about it does it even matter? The most the government will do is to add things like congestion charges to try and milk a few more quid out of the poor people. I'm suprised they've not tried to make an "overpopulation tax" yet so they can really start to milk them.

[alexw]

This is awfully close to you harassing me wouldn't you say? I am quite positive that is against the code of conduct.

Anyone and everyone is free to look at my posting history if they like. I have nothing to hide.

Lol. The victimhood. Hilarious. You get called out on your bullshit "there is uncertainty" act, and the fact you got called out somehow means you are being harassed.

[JohnBrown1917]

What costs are you guys even on about? Rising tides? Droughts? Is calamity imminent in our lifetimes?

Preventing my country from being flooded aint cheap.

[Torto]

Preventing my country from being flooded aint cheap.

And how much do you think the tides will rise? How much flooding do you expect? How many sand bags need to be filled?

And yet, amongst all this doom, the rich and powerful are still buying and living in beach side properties.

[Orbitus]

Sad to see more people believe In this propaga fairy tale. We're going to have to push harder, so the western world doesn't crumble.

Well, if you don't believe it, then you are either gullible, being paid by the oil and coal companies, or have no fucking clue what the science is.

[Noxx79]

And how much do you think the tides will rise? How much flooding do you expect? How many sand bags need to be filled?

And yet, amongst all this doom, the rich and powerful are still buying and living in beach side properties.

Sweet, we can ignore the consequences of our actions? We should lower taxes to zero, and give everyone in the us 100k a year. After all, it doesn't matter if this destroys the economy, that's in the future.

[Wiyld]

Let's hope the laws of physics never become a political football or we might wind up fighting gravity deniers.

Einstein was working with the Clintons to lie to us all on CNN.

[Torto]

Sweet, we can ignore the consequences of our actions? We should lower taxes to zero, and give everyone in the us 100k a year. After all, it doesn't matter if this destroys the economy, that's in the future.

Ha, don't make me laugh. Most western governments are in so much debt that it will take generations to pay off. We are condemning our children to endless recessions and no one cries about that. But when the seas rise by an inch it's all hands on deck.

[Volardelis]

More and more people buying in to fake news. If global warming was real Papa Trump would be doing something about it.

I just find it funny that Trump supporters believe everything that isn't from Trump or his team is 'fake news'. Yet you have his own team make up shit to justify their EO's. Bowling Green Massacre and that thing that happened in Sweden anyone?

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Let's hope the laws of physics never become a political football or we might wind up fighting gravity deniers.

Or that light isn't a spectrum of colours based on different wave lengths and frequencies.

There is only one light. PURE WHITE LIGHT! Not red, not blue, not green, just pure white!

[Garnier Fructis]

Ha, don't make me laugh. Most western governments are in so much debt that it will take generations to pay off. We are condemning our children to endless recessions and no one cries about that. But when the seas rise by an inch it's all hands on deck.

We're looking at ~11 inches of sea level rise by the end of the century, at the low end of the most conservative estimates. And here's where I remind everyone that there is no legitimate reason whatsoever for simply assuming the best case scenario. Especially given that this is the scenario where we start heavily controlling emissions like yesterday.

Anyway, at 1-3 ft sea level rise you can get a feel for how buttfucked coastal states, and by extension your tax dollars, will get:
https://coast.noaa.gov/slr/

The one justice in this world is that you guys will end up paying for it with the rest of us whether your like it or not unless you croak early. So in all seriousness, I want all the skeptics to live long healthy lives. So that they can help pay for some of the shit they denied would happen, instead of escaping responsibility.

[Theodarzna]

Ha, don't make me laugh. Most western governments are in so much debt that it will take generations to pay off. We are condemning our children to endless recessions and no one cries about that. But when the seas rise by an inch it's all hands on deck.

We'll we were doomed either way. Debt is largely a fiction crisis. I.E. can be handwaved out of existence. Climate change cannot be declared non-existence by human decree.

[Garnier Fructis]

We'll we were doomed either way. Debt is largely a fiction crisis. I.E. can be handwaved out of existence. Climate change cannot be declared non-existence by human decree.

Not for lack of trying, though.

[Endus]

How many other people have you linked their posting history?

When they claim they don't support something I clearly recall them supporting in the past? I don't have a number, but I'll do it every time something like that crops up. There's nothing whatsoever wrong with quoting an old post of someone's, particularly when you're clear that you're doing so (so it isn't taken as part of the current conversation).

How many that had an opinion that differed from yours?

How many that had the same as yours?

This is a nonsensical position. Easily 95%+ of my posts are in response to people I disagree with, since I don't have much patience for "righty-o good chap, I agree with you totally" type posting. Even when I do respond to someone I agree with, it's usually to add something significant I think they overlooked.

Because if I didn't have something to point out, I wouldn't bother posting anything at all.

[Mormolyce]

Einstein was working with the Clintons to lie to us all on CNN.

The failing laws of physics are fake news! SAD!

[Tijuana]

When they claim they don't support something I clearly recall them supporting in the past? I don't have a number, but I'll do it every time something like that crops up. There's nothing whatsoever wrong with quoting an old post of someone's, particularly when you're clear that you're doing so (so it isn't taken as part of the current conversation).



This is a nonsensical position. Easily 95%+ of my posts are in response to people I disagree with, since I don't have much patience for "righty-o good chap, I agree with you totally" type posting. Even when I do respond to someone I agree with, it's usually to add something significant I think they overlooked.

Because if I didn't have something to point out, I wouldn't bother posting anything at all.

I don't understand people like this. You are saying you are a moderator on a discussion forum because you like to correct people. I wish there were two GEN-OT forums, so those of us who like to discuss things could not be bothered by those who want to argue every irrelevant point, and discuss nothing.

[Endus]

I don't understand people like this. You are saying you are a moderator on a discussion forum because you like to correct people.

Err, no. I like discussion. That's why I joined these forums, originally. Mostly for Shaman stuff, since I wanted to get involved in guide-writing, way back when. That, over the years, led to me participating more and more in GenOT, and finally moving my mod duties over here.

The moderation stuff is a way to give back to a community I enjoy being a part of. It's completely separate from why I post on the forums.