Debunking Malmo Sweden's "Rape Issues"

[Leyl]

The BBC News delivers the killing blow regarding rape in Malmo; with GASP - actual facts. Figures and charts disprove quotes from far right leaders.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39056786

During 2015, the year in which Sweden took the largest number of asylum seekers, the number of reported sex crimes and rapes actually decreased by 11% and 12% respectively compared with 2014 - 18,100 sex offences were reported to the police, of which 5,920 were classified as rape.

[Themius]

See, this doesn't have more replies because it's not saying evil raping refugees.

[Somewhatconcerned]

But, fake news.

Am I doing it right?

[Cerilis]

I'm curious how much that is relatively to other places.

[Deleted]

No, I won't. Just a message to Sweden because you guys are very, very right on this one. More refugees, less rape? Please IMPORT MORE! More cultural enrichment for everyone!

If the facts are like this, it's like this. But I know for a fact that migrants raped migrants on festivals, nothing to do with numbers. Just to do with a single phenomenon which would have not existed without our lovely migrants. Sweden is going down the drain since they are in equal denial as you guys, just wait 20 years.

[Mormolyce]

I'm curious how much that is relatively to other places.

Section on that near the bottom. Essentially it's difficult to compare between nations because of differences in the law, police record keeping procedures, reporting rates etc.

[Edge-]

No, I won't. Just a message to Sweden because you guys are very, very right on this one. More refugees, less rape? Please IMPORT MORE! More cultural enrichment for everyone!

If the facts are like this, it's like this. But I know for a fact that migrants raped migrants on festivals, nothing to do with numbers. Just to do with a single phenomenon which would have not existed without our lovely migrants. Sweden is going down the drain since they are in equal denial as you guys, just wait 20 years.

So, you're presented with facts, but because you disagree with them your own "facts" (feelings) supersede them and determine what is the "truth" to you?

Basically, "I reject reality and substitute my own."?

Am I reading your post correctly, or am I misreading somehow?

[God Save The King]

Well, we all know that.

But I have no hope that this will convince the alt-right, they will probably scream fake news and retort with a Paint-graph from Infowars.

My thoughts when reading this.

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So, you're presented with facts, but because you disagree with them your own "facts" (feelings) supersede them and determine what is the "truth" to you?

Basically, "I reject reality and substitute my own."?

Am I reading your post correctly, or am I misreading somehow?

Connal had a nice article a few days ago which explained why people, who have a preconceived notion about a topic, have trouble changing their opinions when presented with new facts.

[Cerilis]

Section on that near the bottom. Essentially it's difficult to compare between nations because of differences in the law, police record keeping procedures, reporting rates etc.

No no, not entire nations. I actually meant other towns in sweden, or in other first world countries, like Europe or even the US!

Oh, wait. I didnt see the graph. So that has other places in sweden covered I guess.

[Leyl]

So in other words: "Screw the facts!"?

That's my point; fascists love one thing: tossing real actual facts out the window, and replacing it with hate speech. It's a common thread.

[mittacc]

"The rate of reported rapes in Malmo has not dramatically risen in recent years and has in fact declined from its peak in 2010, before the recent large increases in refugees. "



2010 had 5960 reports of rape, 2015 had 5918 WHAT A DECREASE, A FULL 0.704%!. Had they looked at 2014 they would've got 6697 reported rapes, an increase of 12.37%. You can't just look at two select years and draw a conclusion... The trend is that it's rising, period.

Edit: The scale is also retarded. The number of rapes has increased by over 40% in less than 10 years but since the y-scale is so fucked it's kinda hidden at a first glance. OH WAIT, it actually happened in 3 years...from 2006 to 2009. I wonder why they don't show numbers before 2006...


How can you not see how stupid this is?

[Deleted]

yep, nothing going on in sweden: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...aks-out-sweden . Y know I'm starting to get this whole fake news bs trump is getting at. I mean he's obviously uneloquent with his words but you can't say his points are entirely fabricated. It's just more raw, like when talking with your friends you gotto go with what they mean and not always what they say. Obviously not ideal for a president but eh, I guess it takes a certain level of crazy to not go with this endless flow of PC culture and accompanied lefty white knighting.

[Damajin]

Rofl BBC, that institution of factual reporting and integrity.

No surprise that the BBC who was all in against Brexit and is about spewing globalist swill whenever possible would try to sanitize the problems with rape in Sweden. We call that acting in ones' and their brethrens' interests.

[Grimbold21]

Is Malmo the rape capital of the world? No, but Sweden is (of Europe). That's how the article concludes anyway.

[Bakis]

Also there has been legislative changes two times since the 2000, both aimed at stiffening up the legislation.

[Adolecent]

Well, we all know that.

But I have no hope that this will convince the alt-right, they will probably scream fake news and retort with a Paint-graph from Infowars.

Trump already said the BBC is "fake news" and therefor hostile to the "American people". This news, which we already knew, will never reach the (alt-)right.

[alexw]

"The rate of reported rapes in Malmo has not dramatically risen in recent years and has in fact declined from its peak in 2010, before the recent large increases in refugees. "



2010 had 5960 reports of rape, 2015 had 5918 WHAT A DECREASE, A FULL 0.704%!. Had they looked at 2014 they would've got 6697 reported rapes, an increase of 12.37%. You can't just look at two select years and draw a conclusion... The trend is that it's rising, period.

Edit: The scale is also retarded. The number of rapes has increased by over 40% in less than 10 years but since the y-scale is so fucked it's kinda hidden at a first glance. OH WAIT, it actually happened in 3 years...from 2006 to 2009. I wonder why they don't show numbers before 2006...


How can you not see how stupid this is?

Except it doesn't show correlation to immigration. If immigration was the driving force we'd see a substantial rise occurring in 2015 which is the year when large numbers of immigrants were accepted. Rather if anything the rise appears to correlate to the economic financial crash, which should not be a surprise, as increasing financial stress increases social stress, and that causes anti-social behavior to rise.

[Independent voter]

Looks like there was a tiny spike in molestations...

[alexw]

Rofl BBC, that institution of factual reporting and integrity.

No surprise that the BBC who was all in against Brexit and is about spewing globalist swill whenever possible would try to sanitize the problems with rape in Sweden. We call that acting in ones' and their brethrens' interests.

You would not know what facts are if they bit you on the ass. You have a pre-concieved belief system and you discard anything that doesn't fit it.

This is the data from the Swedish Government. How exactly is it incorrect? In what way are the numbers wrong?

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Looks like there was a tiny spike in molestations...

There is, but there is no correlation to immigration. The largest rise occurred over 2007-2012. Whilst the largest rise in immigration was in 2015 yet the numbers fell for that year.

[mittacc]

Except it doesn't show correlation to immigration. If immigration was the driving force we'd see a substantial rise occurring in 2015 which is the year when large numbers of immigrants were accepted. Rather if anything the rise appears to correlate to the economic financial crash, which should not be a surprise, as increasing financial stress increases social stress, and that causes anti-social behavior to rise.

That's assuming they get rapey during the little vetting process we have which is probably when the rapist actually behave somewhat (we have winter, remember?). 2016 is left out for some reason even though it has passed. Guess you missed the mass sexual assault game the "refugees" had during new years and the amount of harrassment during festivals where the municipals loaded fucking busses full of these unchecked people and just flooded them into the crowd. We know the results...

edit: Hmm, what do we have here? A bigger fraction of people got raped after 2015? Who could've guessed?