Danish man who burned Quran charged with blasphemy

[May90]

No, but the holy books of a religion are the property of the religion and their believers.

There can be no such thing as the "property of the religion", because the religion is not a legal entity able to own anything, purchase anything or sell anything. And believers only own intellectual property that they themselves created; they cannot own Quran, because they didn't author it or copyright it.

In our country, holy books are protected under the blashpemy law. And, considering our history, burning these books is seen as violating our blasphemy law.

This doesn't seem reasonable to me. "Holiness" is very subjective, and protecting it legally reeks of Medieval times.

[Deleted]

There is no such thing as a "holy" book. It's paper and ink.

For those who are believers those books are holy books. Be it the bible for christians, or the quran for muslims.

See, I'm just going to a bookfair next week, find some bibles, quran and let's hope for a thora too and use them to light my BBQ this summer.

America has no blasphemy law. So just have fun doing so.

Just for the fun of knowing it irks you. I'm not making a film of it, I'm just going to do that.

I could not care less. But if you just want to burn books because it "irks" me, you must have real problems.

Good thing they have so many pages, I love to BBQ in summer.

Dont eat them all. Bibles are even worse than hamburgers.

[Mormolyce]

Seems likely to result in acquittal.

The blasphemy law has been invoked only a handful of times since its creation in 1866, most recently in 1971, when two people broadcast a song mocking Christianity and stirred a debate over female sexuality. They were acquitted.

No one has been convicted of the crime since 1946, when a man dressed himself up as a priest and mock-baptized a doll at a masquerade ball.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/23/w...n-burning.html

Laughable, really. I thought western countries would have gotten rid of blasphemy laws but I guess I was wrong.

Cleaning up old laws is difficult and there's rarely votes in it, plus it often opens you up to criticism, so politicians are loath to do it.

[Deleted]

It's not intelectual property

The question was if words can be property, and yes, they can.

[Post]

No, but religion should be protected from insults, violence and riots.

Religion should be protected from insults? Holy shit, that's regressive.

[Nitro Fun]

The question was if words can be property, and yes, they can.

You're free to show which words in the quran or the bible are property then.

I've got both in my drawer, incidentally I had them given to me by religious people. They can't take them back. It's my property now.

[Deleted]

No, but religion should be protected from insults, violence and riots.

See Reichskristallnacht.

Why? People should be able to challenge these views and dogmas. I don't show reverence for any god/holy person or items because I don't believe in it.

To me it's sort of similar like saying "views about Earth being flat should be protected"

[Deleted]

Religion should be protected from insults? Holy shit, that's regressive.

As i said, my country has a law where public insults (against people or groups of people) are illegal.

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Why? People should be able to challenge these views and dogmas.

Without any doubt. But they should not insult the believers, make riots against their homes and burn down their temples.

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You're free to show which words in the quran or the bible are property then.

From my point of view holy books are properties of the religions and their believers. But you may have another opinion.

[Nitro Fun]

Without any doubt. But they should not insult the believers, make riots against their homes and burn down their temples.

You can't not insult the believers when you criticize religion. It's impossible. There's always someone who will be insulted.

Hell, large parts of my family are insulted by the fact that I never believed.

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From my point of view holy books are properties of the religions and their believers. But you may have another opinion.

No, the quran and the bible I have in my drawer belongs to me. No believer can just walk into my home and take them without violating the law as they'd be stealing from me if they take them.

[Deleted]

You can't not insult the believers when you criticize religion. It's impossible. There's always someone who will be insulted.

It is not about if someone feels insulted but if it is an insult based on the laws of the country. And the definition for an insult in law in my country, as example, is very strict, based on word catalgoues and the judgement of the court it is brought up to.

[Mormolyce]

Sure you can. Thats called "intellectual property".

The Scientologists try to use that angle.

Apparently it works, which is pretty disgusting.

Although they conveniently pass themselves off as a business or a religion at different times, when it suits them.

[Deleted]

No, the quran and the bible I have in my drawer belongs to me. No believer can just walk into my home and take them without violating the law as they'd be stealing from me if they take them.

Actually, the books in your drawer are the fundamental rules for a lot of people who believe in those words.

I believe that has to be respected.

[Nitro Fun]

Actually, the books in your drawer are the fundamental rules for a lot of people who believe in those words.

So what?

I believe that has to be respected.

Nope. They're my books and I'm free to do what I want to with them. If I want to tear out the pages and use them to wipe myself with, I can do that. If I want to burn them, I can do that.

[Bryntrollian]

Burn a bible and nothing would have happend. At least i can't imagine any christian to make a fuss about it.

That would simply mean Christians don't take their religion seriously though, wouldn't it ?

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Nope. They're my books and I'm free to do what I want to with them.

At least in your country.

And now i have to go to burn some american flags. Want to help me?

[Nitro Fun]

At least in your country.

And now i have to go to burn some american flags. Want to help me?

You go ahead and burn american flags all you want.

[Deleted]

You go ahead and burn american flags all you want.

Which is not even illegal in germany.

But i wont. As i respect the americans and their flag.

[Post]

As i said, my country has a law where public insults (against people or groups of people) are illegal.

Yeah that's ridiculous and regressive.

[Deleted]

Yeah that's ridiculous and regressive.

I think it is justified. As public denouncations never really helped to get arguments going.

[Nitro Fun]

Which is not even illegal in germany.

Not illegal in USA either.