As an atheist, how can I be blasphemic if I don't believe in the content I burn?
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Actually that is exactly what they are for, murder by itself may lessen strain on society, and the murdered person isnt a living victim.
It is illegal to give meaning to the moral implications of the living relatives/friends having to go through..emotional pain.
A sex video is fine to post, unless it is a ....revenge posting, if your partner doesnt care in most states at least in the us no charges will be brought up,
Again someone 'feels' violated by having their 'video' posted, they have their emotions protected by laws.
Every law can be distilled down to protecting emotion in some form or manner.
a rich altruistic person may not give a damn if theyre robbed because the robber likely needs the cash, most people will be emotionally hurt and file a report
Laws - the written moral code for your region, as morals are designed specifically to what makes people in a region feel violated
So yes, emotion plays a HUGE roll in whether something is legal or not....or corporations...thats another topic though.
Still I cry, tears like pouring rain, Innocent is my lurid pain.
But you're still mixing 2 separate things - hate speech and blasphemy laws. Also, "saying certain bad things" is not a hate speech right away.
Blasphemy laws simply disallow to deface religious symbols to offend followers of said religion. It doesn't even have to be hate speech.
I have enough of EA ruining great franchises and studios, forcing DRM and Origin on their games, releasing incomplete games only to sell day-1 DLCs or spill dozens of DLCs, and then saying it, and microtransactions, is what players want, stopping players from giving EA games poor reviews, as well as deflecting complaints with cheap PR tricks.
I'm not going to buy any game by EA as long as they continue those practices.
Have to disagree with everything you said. Laws dont serve emotion and are basically a F.. off or else thing. If you go mess with someone else, doesnt matter why, what your problem is, why that person irritates you emotionally, you get punished and you should be.
If you go rob someone, youre the one doing the robbing, thus guilty. if you kill someone, youre doing the killing. Basically, you interfere with someones freedom. Someone burning a garbage book however doesnt interfere with your freedoms in any way.
Agreed. America takes the cake in this regard.
A country like Denmark is among the freest in Europe, but there is still much work to be done.
Paragraph 266 (racism-paragraph) and paragraf 144 (Blasphemy-paragram) both need to go, and once they're gone, it is my impression that we will be pretty close to the US in this regard. Criticism of Islam will remain dangerous, however, as we have hundred of thousands of poorly integrated, fundamentalist muslims in Scandinavia alone and borders that are still quite open. So while we will soon have legal freedom to criticize Islam (paragraph 144 will probably go...), we will not have de-facto freedom because our government have not only tolerated, but downright celebrated, the presence of so many islamic fundamentalists around here.
They have only recently begun to turn, but they came too late. And with too little.
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Anything included in hate speech laws already cover the important stuff in blasphemy laws, making blasphemy laws redundant. the only reason they exist is because religious people aren't fine with hate speech laws only covering the important stuff, they also want special privaledges for the other stuff. To the point that blasphemy laws are often so vague that mere criticism of religion can be interpreted (and charged?) as blasphemy.
Errr nope? They also disallow speech.Blasphemy laws simply disallow to deface religious symbols to offend followers of said religion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law
I can't believe this has to be defended when our own politicians largely agree such laws are archaic.
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Religious freedom means freedom from government oppression. Individuals should be able to do whatever they like as long as it doesn't violate other laws, such as those against murder and assault. Beyond that, people should be able to say what they want and burn what they want as protected by freedom of speech and expression. This should also, in my opinion, include the freedom of a private business to hire who they want.
The use of threads and reprisal to make people conform is a very German thing in general. Berufsverbot serves as a nice post-WW2 example of the German way of governing and dealing with people who do not conform.
This hasn't changed since the nazi-days in principle, the germans still use reprisals and threads to bring dissidents in line. Only the reprisals have gotten much less severe, which is a step forward, to be fair.
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The tangent proves the point though, the existance of hate speech laws in themselves does not show how they apply. You can express a rather wide variety of opinions before they apply.
This is not to say the laws should exist (Though they do for a reason unlike the blasphemy one, we saw what was going on in Germany and acted with law, refer to probably a november 9th to 10th 1938ish.. it is germany so the date is probably right)