Trump lays out plan to bankrupt the USA

[alexw]

You do realize that the former Administration spent more money that all US presidents combined, right?

To pull us out of the depression the prior republican administration threw us into, yes. That is correct.

However there is no need to borrow boatloads of additional money currently, the private sector is doing OK, so there is no need for substantial deficit spending as a pump-prime mechanism. Any additional spending (which certainly is needed to fix decades old crumbling infrastructure) should be met with tax rises on those with the ability to bear the rises - i.e. the super-rich. This is what any credible economist would suggest anyway as we are wayyy wayyy away from the maximal point on the laffer curve for them (~70% income tax rates).

[Glorious Leader]

To pull us out of the depression the prior republican administration threw us into, yes. That is correct.

However there is no need to borrow boatloads of additional money currently, the private sector is doing OK, so there is no need for substantial deficit spending as a pump-prime mechanism. Any additional spending (which certainly is needed to fix decades old crumbling infrastructure) should be met with tax rises on those with the ability to bear the rises - i.e. the super-rich. This is what any credible economist would suggest anyway as we are wayyy wayyy away from the maximal point on the laffer curve for them (~70% income tax rates).

Thats debatable. Ultimately defecit spending should fulfil a policy decision. If you argue for full employment the youll need more defecit spending. If you want deflation well not as much.

[stabetha]

I love posters that dismiss some of the best sources out there simply because they don't suck Trump's cock like you do.

Everytime someone doesn't fall in lockstep with your hatred of Trump they are "sucking his cock" I beganing to think there is something fruedian about it.

[Orbitus]

Bbc is anti trump now? Any particular reason you think this?

Because Trump said so of course. Which is why he banned the BBC from the last press conference.

[Enthusiastic Steward]

To pull us out of the depression the prior republican administration threw us into, yes. That is correct.

Its not, the initial big number Obama ate in 2009 was put in place as an emergency measure against the financial crisis by the outgoing administration late in 2008. It played out under Obama's tenure, but was not constructed not implemented by him.

Ally's claim also only works if you don't adjust for inflation, which is propagandic nonsense to not do, so the whole thing is a joke.

[Orbitus]

Everytime someone doesn't fall in lockstep with your hatred of Trump they are "sucking his cock" I beganing to think there is something fruedian about it.

And you would be wrong. But hey, keep trying.

[provaporous]

I don't think anyone can say that fiscally draining the US economy of money and funding the military is a wise move; more over draining environmental/science/social programs is a smart move either. Trump is doing all of that and then some, and meanwhile going to porkbarrel infrastructure to loyal constituencies more than likely. He states he's going to lower taxes as well; so I don't see how this will lower our debt - something the GOP was stringent on.

Source: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39108194

But, hey, lets blow all the cash, and pour it down the drain on bombs, walls, and bridges to nowhere. I'm sure we'll be fine after all is said and done, right?

So many things wrong with this post, how can he be for draining the US Economy if the only thing he has consistently promised is tax cuts across the board, by definition that keeps more money in the economy or do i need to explain basic object permanence to you. Secondly with regards to "draining" bloated federal programs that have, for the most part, only existed for a few dozen years and have done next to nothing, he can dismantle them for all i care. Big, slow, government agencies are not the answer, States can handle these tasks more effectively, and Trump has said hes for moving more power to the states.

Lowering taxes lowers the debt because both employers and workers have more capital to spend, thus creating more demand for products/services and in turn creating more jobs to contribute to taxes.

[stabetha]

And you would be wrong. But hey, keep trying.

denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

[Deleted]

crazy that majority of you think BBC are republican supporters so this article must be true...please do at least a little research before making absurd comments.

[Theodarzna]

I don't think anyone can say that fiscally draining the US economy of money and funding the military is a wise move; more over draining environmental/science/social programs is a smart move either. Trump is doing all of that and then some, and meanwhile going to porkbarrel infrastructure to loyal constituencies more than likely. He states he's going to lower taxes as well; so I don't see how this will lower our debt - something the GOP was stringent on.

Source: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39108194

But, hey, lets blow all the cash, and pour it down the drain on bombs, walls, and bridges to nowhere. I'm sure we'll be fine after all is said and done, right?

Wait, are you telling me the new Liberal position is for military spending, and to be skeptical of infrastructure spending?

[ImpTaimer]

OP creates liberal shitposting click-bait thread #<insert> with bogus article that can't properly source.

More at eleven.

[Aggrophobic]

I thought Trump wanted less to do with the outside world?
What is the point of such a large military then?

[Orbitus]

crazy that majority of you think BBC are republican supporters so this article must be true...please do at least a little research before making absurd comments.

They don't have to be Republican supporters to report about him and his bullshit. The only one that needs to do any research for anything is you. Maybe you wouldn't be a Trump supporter if you looked at all sources on a story and just believe him because he said it. We KNOW Trump lies constantly and yet you still believe him. I will listen to BBC and their economists over Trump and his team. Trump has lost BILLIONS of dollars, I wouldn't trust him with a piggy bank full of pennies.

[tyrlaan]

I don't really trust news from the Big Black Cock site.

Per your terminology, then I think it's fair to say that once you try it you'll never go anywhere else for your news.

Hey OP, thanks for your contributions to President Trumps 2020 re-election campaign. You made sure that he has my vote again.

Thanks for your contribution to the idiocracy. Because after all, the most mature and intelligent way to decide who to vote for to lead a country is through knee jerk emotional reactions and/or to stick it to people that bother you.

[Orbitus]

OP creates liberal shitposting click-bait thread #<insert> with bogus article that can't properly source.

More at eleven.

And yet, still true. The only one shitposting, is you. I guess if it isn't the Whitehouse propaganda arm in Breitbart, it isn't true right? Jesus christ you guys are ignorant.

[Deleted]

They don't have to be Republican supporters to report about him and his bullshit. The only one that needs to do any research for anything is you. Maybe you wouldn't be a Trump supporter if you looked at all sources on a story and just believe him because he said it. We KNOW Trump lies constantly and yet you still believe him. I will listen to BBC and their economists over Trump and his team. Trump has lost BILLIONS of dollars, I wouldn't trust him with a piggy bank full of pennies.

all i need to know to decide that i do not want to be having an in depth conversation about you. please carry on making claims about my views and political opinions without actually knowing them though.

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More at eleven.

everyone needs to look at this comment. @Orbitus you especially.

[Tulune]

As an internet edgelord, I'm cheering on the end of the government and society as we know it. The Empire is crumbling with or without Trump. If he speeds up the process, then good. In our modernity, we've lost something so deep and profound that we can't even remember that we lost it. In Heideggerian terms, it's the openness to Being, the very thing that makes us human, that we've lost. And the only way to get it back in today's age is for the entire system to collapse in on itself. This age of decadent hedonistic nihilism must come to an end in order for the balance of nature to be restored. It's already underway. It was underway before Trump. It'll keep crumbling after him. Vote your little heart out for every globalist Marxist that says all the right buzzwords like "diversity". It doesn't matter. The Empire of Nothing can't be sustained. It's too perverse and aligned against all natural order. Trump may be holding a lit match, but the kindling for the dumpster fire of civilization was already built for him. I for one can't wait to see it go up in flames.

Fixed that for you.

[Wolfman31]

I'm not understanding your use of the term natural order. Do you mean might is superior? That the entire concept of society and governance is a marxist plot?

It doesn't matter if might is "superior" to pacifism or not. It's the way of the world. Humans first started standing upright to gain better leverage for clubbing each other to death. We are forged in violence, racial/tribal conflicts, etc. And we always will be as long as we inhabit this primitive frame. Somewhere along the way, we fell out of touch with nature. Much of it had to do with the universalist religions that spread out of the Middle East. Islam and Christianity have assaulted every ethnic religion they've come in contact with. These two religions focus entirely on the presumed afterlife, causing a shift in the collective consciousness to view all things of this earth as inconsequential at best, and a distraction at worse. What this has led to is an absolute rejection of the natural order, of nature itself. The Devil is a metaphor for giving free reign to our animal instincts. Embracing what we are is a sin in the modern world. And yet despite all the self-righteous ignorance of monotheists, our animal instincts continue to express themselves. There is no suppression strong enough to negate it. Nature always finds a way.

It's natural for us to form groups and to expand upon them. Governance within a tribe is based on that tribe's honor code, its values and traditions. Initially, majority of nations operated as large tribes, each with their own defined cultural morality. But again, the advent of certain universalist monotheistic religions has eroded away the bedrock of national/tribal identity, priming the collective consciousness of the people for other universalist doctrines like Marxism. We went from all gods to one god to no god and now we worship Mammon, the money god. Of course the corporations love universalism. It makes it easier for them to market their crap to people. When things like racial, gender, sexual, and tribal identity are eroded and everyone is equally and boringly the same, then we can all just fall in line and buy whatever crap they're peddling this week.

Is that the world you want to live in? Is that what diversity really means? Personally I find it grotesque. I love my Germanic heritage. I celebrate every aspect of it, good and bad. I don't care that the brainwashed universalist puppets want to call me a bigot and make me feel guilty and apologize for being white. I don't care about anyone who is not part of my people. I don't even care enough about them to hate them. You're either in my tribe or you're not. And if you're not, that's cool. You go do your thing. I'll do mine. Conflict only arises when we try to live together, when we try to imagine some John Lennon bullshit hippie utopia as an actual possibility. I believe in true diversity and the separateness that allows it.

The natural order is tribal. The human brain only has the capacity for meaningful relationships with around 150 people or so. This globalist ploy that you have to care about everyone everywhere is nonsensical. You can't really care. You don't actually care. Not enough to actually matter. I sit here safe in the United States, not giving one shit about the Jews and Muslims killing each other over some patch of sand I'll never visit. Let them have their war they've been waging for centuries. Not my people, not my problem. I reject the New World Order and all of its machinations. The species has to get back to focusing on what's immediate: our friends and family, our tribe. That will bring us closer to the openness to Being that our ancestors once experienced.

[Manabomb]

i love clickbait trump threads that source a news site which is openly opposed to Trump and the republican party.

just to clarify though, it is a great plan and i would vote for him again in 4 years if he does this.

So you have no idea how economies, policies and media works, then?

Alright, continue getting your news from an entertainment channel.

[Jtbrig7390]

OP creates liberal shitposting click-bait thread #<insert> with bogus article that can't properly source.

The source is Trump's/Obama's twitter account LOL.

You are more then welcome to go look for yourself, as of the post of the OP it was still there. Do you not know what the blue check mark means on twitter accounts?