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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Voting for or against Brexit has nothing to do with how you think about Trump.
    Ssst, don't tell him the scots hate Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deruyter View Post
    Looks promising again.

    He kind lost it for a while, but hopefully this will be a soft "reset" and we can see some of his original plans take effect soon.
    Be very quiet everybody! We are here in its natural habitat, the very rare and endangered Dutchman who likes Trump.
    Don't scare it away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Be very quiet everybody! We are here in its natural habitat, the very rare and endangered Dutchman who likes Trump.
    Don't scare it away!
    Pff be patriotic at least. The man is orange!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    Sadly the people who need to hear this will just write Bernie off as a "crazy socialist."
    Sanders went on to attack Trump for not draining the swamp. The Senator from Vermont hit Trump for breaking his campaign promise of reinstating the Glass-Steagall Act.

    Sen. Sanders said that some of what Trump said looks good on the surface. Sanders exposed Trump’s infrastructure plan as bogus and said that the had a hard time not laughing out loud when Trump spoke about protecting clean air and water.

    Sanders said that Trump is going to pay for his Pentagon spending spree by slashing funding for programs for the elderly, sick, and the poor. Sanders hit Trump for wanting to give the wealthy a $3 trillion tax cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belfpala View Post
    I didn't state my position on America at all. I was just curious about blowback.

    Ultimately, isn't it "Me First" anyway, at least for now?

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    At some point, sometime, it will have to be Earth First. He was thinking a few generations ahead, as I tend to do.
    Thinking and acting on a future that does not exist is insane. Nobody crowned him emperor of mankind.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    Wow, Trump was able to read off of a teleprompter with little to no ad-libbing...so presidential!

    Really...people are giving him credit for that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Trump is still giving shout outs to his lord and master.

    Oh shit...LOL!!! Love this pic!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Thinking and acting on a future that does not exist is insane. Nobody crowned him emperor of mankind.
    Shhhh. Rationality is the enemy, you must not say anything close to it, less you want to attract those who we mustn't utter the name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macaquerie View Post
    You mean thoughtfully and considerately, rather than turning every geopolitical conflict into a dick measuring contest? Obama's approach to foreign policy was just fine, presenting a calm and measured image but not being afraid to use force when necessary, just like Teddy Roosevelt described. The only problem was that his enemies at home were so mad the black guy won they spent eight years undermining him in front of the entire world, and our rivals took note of that and exploited that division.
    He was "thoughtful," at the expense of the country he was charged with being president of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodElf4Life View Post
    Shhhh. Rationality is the enemy, you must not say anything close to it, less you want to attract those who we mustn't utter the name.
    One can speak of "Earth First," or whatever but at the end of the day I expect the Prime Minister of the UK to care for the UK first, others second. I expect the president of the United States to care for the United States first, others second.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    One can speak of "Earth First," or whatever but at the end of the day I expect the Prime Minister of the UK to care for the UK first, others second. I expect the president of the United States to care for the United States first, others second.
    That's why we have countries in the first place. I think that to work internationally is important for pretty much everyone, but let's not forget that ultimately, a country's responsibility is toward its people first, the world second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordKain View Post
    Wow, Trump was able to read off of a teleprompter with little to no ad-libbing...so presidential!

    Really...people are giving him credit for that?



    Oh shit...LOL!!! Love this pic!!
    The bar is set so low for him that he gets credit for basic functions. On the same day that he suggested anti-semitic behavior is really just about people not liking him, and attempting to absolve himself in the Yemen raid by putting a clear line between him and the military("they lost him"<wink wink>), we're supposed to praise him for not doing it in his speech.

    Yay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordKain View Post
    Wow, Trump was able to read off of a teleprompter with little to no ad-libbing...so presidential!

    Really...people are giving him credit for that?
    Sadly, yes. Because he was able to stay on-message and read an actual speech rather than spouting out his word diarrhea, he gets gold stars and pats on the back. Basically the media is giving him his participation trophy.

    The real irony? The GOP and even Trump himself giving Obama no end of shit for using teleprompters, but yet again, the double standard is glaring right at us.
    "Lack of information on your part does not constitute bias on mine."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    He was "thoughtful," at the expense of the country he was charged with being president of.
    That is simply a lie.

    He did not injure the US to help the planet or other countries.
    "When Facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." - Unknown

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    That is simply a lie.

    He did not injure the US to help the planet or other countries.
    Our country had problems far more important than his making buddy buddy with Iran, or playing games in Syria and Libya. He was lackluster and home and couldn't even do the abroad stuff "right."
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Our country had problems far more important than his making buddy buddy with Iran, or playing games in Syria and Libya. He was lackluster and home and couldn't even do the abroad stuff "right."
    Stop.

    You said he was "thoughtful" at the expense of the country. Those words means he injured the country somehow BY doing nice things for other countries.

    Don't obfusicate. Don't circumvent what you said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Thinking and acting on a future that does not exist is insane. Nobody crowned him emperor of mankind.
    It certainly won't exist if it's actively prevented.

    Let's all ride the Gish gallop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belfpala View Post
    It certainly won't exist if it's actively prevented.
    I don't think it can exist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    almost every statement in his speech was a lie or a distortion

    but i'm glad some folks thought it sounded great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    almost every statement in his speech was a lie or a distortion

    but i'm glad some folks thought it sounded great
    According to a newly released poll, most did. 69% felt more optimistic about America's future after listening to his speech.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news...-presidential/ the 69% poll was from a CNN one, this one has even more favorable views.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    According to a newly released poll, most did. 69% felt more optimistic about America's future after listening to his speech.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news...-presidential/ the 69% poll was from a CNN one, this one has even more favorable views.
    I thought we didn't trust polls anymore? This post-truth world is confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Activi-T View Post
    I thought we didn't trust polls anymore? This post-truth world is confusing.
    Good point. But most people will trust ones which they agree with. lol! I did not think Trump would win the election. The polls said he would not. But they were wrong. I think these polls concerning his speech to Congress are close however. The Presidential elections were off in some cases by as much as 8%. Lets say this poll about his speech is off by 10%. It would still give him a high rating for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Good point. But most people will trust ones which they agree with. lol! I did not think Trump would win the election. The polls said he would not. But they were wrong. I think these polls concerning his speech to Congress are close however. The Presidential elections were off in some cases by as much as 8%. Lets say this poll about his speech is off by 10%. It would still give him a high rating for it.
    Then you don't understand polling or probabilities.
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