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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
    I think the Russians will have a tough time moving into the US without allies. It's a freaking half a globe away and theres all kinds of bureocracy and resources necessary to mount such an operation. Negotiations would have to be made for safe transit or more wars would have to be fought. All this cause of Syria?! I think not.
    Unlike the current US president, Puttin isn't stupid. He will just find another way to retaliate.
    That wasn't the question. What I was going for is the fact that no EU country would wage war with Russia because America wants it so. Yes some will try to start one but it will fail.
    You forgot one thing, each and every US president started some kind of war or continued one that was started by his predecessor that was started based upon a lie and misleading US citizens. Current state of politics is that Putin is a bad guy while American president is a saint, i don't think Trump will change the course or will be allowed to do so but i don't think he is stupid enough to start a war on a global scale.

  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Exeris View Post

    Going a bit far i guess, but North Korea is a far bigger military threat than Iraq was?
    The issue here really is that NK is somewhat surrounded by other countries that it also tends to threaten, countries that could also rather quickly take care of it from a military perspective.

    Frankly, it'd be interesting to see what happened if we just let someone who's more immediately threatened deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warhoof View Post
    9/11 didn't convince you? Traitor.
    Again, different action, different conflict type, different designation of combatants. Do try harder to keep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    Its a vicious circle, just like Russia and NATO. NATO moves eastward, Russia reinforces western border with lots of equipment and troops to counter NATO's expansion. Neighboring countries see the Russian build up and get scared shitless and ask NATO for more reinforcement. NATO moves in more equipment, Russia follows etc etc etc etc

    Someone needs to break this circle of idiocy.
    Huge difference, NK and SK are still at war with each other, and NK has proven a willingness to attack SK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exeris View Post
    But then we need to deal with our fears in a mature rational way, who wants to do that.

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    Going a bit far i guess, but North Korea is a far bigger military threat than Iraq was?
    NK and Iraq represent different types of military threat, hard to compare directly.

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/w...-sabotage.html

    Mr. Trump’s aides say everything is on the table. China recently cut off coal imports from the North, but the United States is also looking at ways to freeze the Kim family’s assets, some of which are believed held in Chinese-controlled banks. The Chinese have already opposed the deployment of a high-altitude missile defense system known as Thaad in South Korea; the Trump team may call for even more such systems.

    The White House is also looking at pre-emptive military strike options, a senior Trump administration official said, though the challenge is huge given the country’s mountainous terrain and deep tunnels and bunkers. Putting American tactical nuclear weapons back in South Korea — they were withdrawn a quarter-century ago — is also under consideration, even if that step could accelerate an arms race with the North.

    Mr. Trump’s “It won’t happen!” post on Twitter about the North’s ICBM threat suggests a larger confrontation could be looming.

    “Regardless of Trump’s actual intentions,” James M. Acton, a nuclear analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, recently noted, “the tweet could come to be seen as a ‘red line’ and hence set up a potential test of his credibility.”
    Yet Trump drew his red line on this. When the North does test an ICBM...what will happen then?
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    And to think that people tried to pass Trump off as the "dove" candidate.
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  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Exedore View Post
    Take this with a grain of salt.

    For prominent potential conflicts, like with North Korea or Iran, the pentagon and the rest of the executive branch constantly re-evaluate ways to handle them.
    The US War Department kept plans for a war with Canada up until the 1920s. Existence of plans doesn't mean it's likely they will be carried out.
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    No need for Trump to do that, since Russia is already advancing into Korea - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4FvgLbyNHA

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