Correcting some misconceptions about Marine Le Pen

[Machismo]

You mean like the polls in the USA that painted Trump as getting his ass handed to him?

Well, he did lost the popular vote well within the margin of error.

[JohnBrown1917]

Didn't Hillary win based on the popular vote, making the polls accurate?

I'm surprised a lot of people still dont get the difference between the American and France system.

[Crispin]

Why do you even try arguing with "independent voters" ? They only understand Newspeak and alternative facts

The incoherent nonsense and non-answers they provide are a good laugh tbh.

[TITAN308]

The polls in the USA predicted Clinton would get ca. 3% more votes. She got 3% more votes.
Polls in France are saying that Le Pen will get 20% less votes than the other.

So what is your argument again?

I don't have an argument. Merely an opinion. Nothing is ever done till the ink is dry.

[Deleted]

I don't have an argument. Merely an opinion.

we don't blame you, you've been encouraged to think both hold the same value

[TITAN308]

we don't blame you, you've been encouraged to think both hold the same value

Feel better?

So correct polls in the USA are evidence that the polls in France are completely false?

And no, you won't get away with claiming "it's an opinion".
Polls put her 20% behind any other candidate.
That's like claiming the Party of the Danes will totally win the next election.
What you show us here is not an opinion, it's wishful thinking, a delusion.

Okie dokie then.

[Puremallace]

Here is what you need to know. She wants France to leave the Euro which will cause a massive depression in the Euro area and rippled out to the entire world.

[sarahtasher]

I don't have an argument. Merely an opinion. Nothing is ever done till the ink is dry.

An extreme right blithingly hostile to the Republic is not exactly a new thing in France. There is a far right since 1870 that goes in doublet digits pretty much all the time. The only time they ''won'' when in June 1940, and they spent most of the four years arguing with each other who was the most servile toady of the Nazis.

(It's pretty telling of French politics that there was twenty different political parties during the Occupation with the theme ''Nazis are super'')

[Stommped]

The majority still seems to be against her.

Also, despite being down she seems to be doing better than Trump was before election in a state like Pennsylvania.

[JohnBrown1917]

Also, despite being down she seems to be doing better than Trump was before election in a state like Pennsylvania.

I don't know much about the US elections.
But he made up a 26 point gap on election day?

[sarahtasher]

Also, despite being down she seems to be doing better than Trump was before election in a state like Pennsylvania.

In France, once again, the presidential election is direct. Scoring 58 % in Alsace means you get 58% of the Alsatian vote, not ''100% of the representatives of Alsace. Marine scoring well in relatively rural regions does not give her an advantage over scoring in cities.

[urasim]

The polls in the USA predicted Clinton would get ca. 3% more votes. She got 3% more votes.
Polls in France are saying that Le Pen will get 20% less votes than the other.

So what is your argument again?

You're citing a single pole. There were MANY over a very long time period. We all remember the 98% Clinton versus the 1.8% Trump poll as just a single example. Stop cherry picking. There were more wrong polls than right.

[Deleted]

You're citing a single pole. There were MANY over a very long time period. We all remember the 98% Clinton versus the 1.8% Trump poll as just a single example. Stop cherry picking. There were more wrong polls than right.

That may be because polls are bullshit ?

Look at actual data from an actual election where a le pen featured :

Le Pen : 18% Opponent : 82%

[zebreck]

You're citing a single pole. There were MANY over a very long time period. We all remember the 98% Clinton versus the 1.8% Trump poll as just a single example. Stop cherry picking. There were more wrong polls than right.

This is probably the best explanation for why what you're saying is wrong. That wasn't a poll, it was a very poorly done aggregation of polls. The polls themselves were accurate. I'll let Nate Silver explain why.
From Fivethirtyeight

[Crispin]

You're citing a single pole. There were MANY over a very long time period. We all remember the 98% Clinton versus the 1.8% Trump poll as just a single example. Stop cherry picking. There were more wrong polls than right.

You can't possibly have thought that was a poll?

[Sting]

Nobody is forcing anybody.
She's going right where her entire ideology belongs.


Quoting this so I can laugh about it in a few months

Quoting this so I can quote this in another quote

[Deleted]

Quoting this so I can quote this in another quote

you'll have to be very creative if you want to appear more pathetic

[JohnBrown1917]

Quoting this so I can quote this in another quote

Macron has a statistically better chance of winning, but whatever makes you guys sleep at night.

[Deleted]

Macron has a statistically better chance of winning, but whatever makes you guys sleep at night.

RIP never forget

He just released his program, just wait for the hype bubble to burst

[Deleted]

A twenty percent lead. That's 20.. With a two and a zero.

And then you realize he also has the most volatile voter base and never showed any single piece of policy until this week

36% seulement se disent sûrs de leur vote,

-> 36% say they're sure of who they'll vote for

also, french polling institutes are privately owned and have been proven to use dubious data "correction" methods

http://www.parismatch.com/Actu/Polit...-magie-1187720