Is there an American president that everybody agrees was Good/Excellent?

[Cyanu]

you mean a leader that would be reelected with a near ~100% of the votes? ofc not, in no country ever

but successful leaders are usually people that the opposition despite their disagreements wouldn't go mad to stop, save Obama which will never get credit for his accomplishments because let's be real: he's black and the majority of blue collar white workers and farmers are racists, black and racists are poor mix, so this is their 'revenge', the craziest and most racist/bigot candidate they could find

[Zecora]

I'd say JFK, Reagan, Eisenhower?

Reagan?! ABSOLUTELY not!


I think...maaaybe Lincoln.


For me personally, I'd say Carter. Hasn't been a good president since.

[Nadiru]

Reagan?! ABSOLUTELY not!


I think...maaaybe Lincoln.

Lincoln had less of a popular mandate than Trump does, since apparently we give a shit about the popular vote now.

My pick is Jefferson. All the criticisms of him are because he owned slaves, not because he was a bad President.

[Karfal]

F.D. Roosevelt?

the man that put japs into camps? oooo right the lefties forget about that fact when discussing their socialist hero.

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Andrew Jackson.

[Karfal]

Can we stretch that 100 year limit just a tiny bit so I can suggest Theodore Roosevelt? Because I really want to suggest Theodore Roosevelt.

Other than that, JFK was generally pretty well liked, except by the guy that shot him ofc.

Yes progressives love TR. Since he found the fricken movement.

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Reagan?! ABSOLUTELY not!


I think...maaaybe Lincoln.


For me personally, I'd say Carter. Hasn't been a good president since.

So ya Reagan. Not lincoln for sure.

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Perhaps one must go by how significant the Presidents became later as part of history? Of course they'd be hated when they were alive by people that didn't agree with them... But in retrospect, what they did which pissed people off, made life better for future generations perhaps?

I highly doubt Trump will EVER be featured in the history books as such a figure.

Depends on if lefties write the books or not. Considering he's off to a great start. He's all ready erased Huissein obama's failure presidency other than the 10 trillion in debt and OsamaCare.

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Carter - Also 1 term and got roflstomped by Reagan, 489 EC to 49 lol. A complete disaster of a President, Three Mile Island, Iran Hostage debacle, 13% Inflation, ugh.
Reagan - Pretty clearly the best one in the last 50 years. Ended the Cold War, and he took a disaster of an economy he inherited and had it roaring up through his term.

The glory of "the winter take it all system" Reagan 51% vs 41% for Carter of the popular votes, go to the history as one of the bigest roflstomp.

As a foreigner, I have never understood Carter/Reagan verdict about the Iran Hostage debacle. Carter did try a daring raid that fail spectacularly, so he deserve the blame, but Reagan cave in to Iran and sell/smuggling wepon to Iran, pull out of Libanon becuse of terrorist attack and is judge as a hard/tough/fighting persident.

[Dangg]

you mean a leader that would be reelected with a near ~100% of the votes? ofc not, in no country ever

The Supreme Leader gets 100% with ease.

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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho

No, even during his state of the union speech people were yelling that he sucks.

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george washington.

The British and certain Indian tribes hated him.
Also not president in the last 100 years, per OP rules.

Washington and Lincoln were loved by everyone...except for those that didn't love them.

Washington above.
Lincon was hated by slave owners and the guy who shot him.
Also neither was president in the last 100 years, as the OP rules.

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The Supreme Leader gets 100% with ease.

Actually, even in dictatorship countries the leader generally doesn't get 100% even if voting is mandatory because... some people miss the box. Intentionally or not. In Communist Romania when there was 1 candiate he got about 98% votes. Rest were cancelled votes.

[Mormolyce]

The amount of universal approval increases in proportion to how dimly anyone remembers their actual policies or the political context of the day.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

Seriously, what the hell are you smoking?

I never said anything about party affiliations or anything else along those lines. I stated, and I paraphrase because you're not worth scrolling back to quote myself: "Obama was a good president. It was only because of the Republicans and Congress as a whole that he didn't get much done."

Then you come out of the-fuck-knows-where and start vomiting up shit like "don't give me intentions I don't have" and "I liked Obama for reasons other than Republicans kek" and "the party is irrelevant" and whatever else your mindless rant rambled on about. Which, again, had fuck-all to do with ANYTHING I said and, if anything, just reinforced what I did say.

But for whatever fucked up reason you had, you decided to attack me while, effectively, agreeing with me.

So seriously: What the fuck is your problem?

Do you feel better now that you've raged on the internet?

First, you quoted me and said that "Because he was a good man who did the best he could given the infantile nature of Republicans and Congress as a whole." which is vastly different from your quote here.

By stating because, you've given me intentions that weren't mine. I didn't like Obama because of how he handled Republicans to achieve his goal. That's the part where you're wrong and where I criticize you.

But it seems that you're awfully aggressive the second someone points a fallacy, so have a good day, I guess.

[Ghostpanther]

With Teddy and Reagan in there the bar isn't exactly set high.

Well you just proved the point in the part of the thread title which asks " ....that everybody agrees was good/excellent". To answer that, there has never been one.

[Pannonian]

From entertainment factor: Trump, Jackson close second

[Doctor Funkenstein]

Do you feel better now that you've raged on the internet?

I don't know, do you seeing as how you're the one who went ranting to begin with, Mr. Self-Important?

First, you quoted me and said that "Because he was a good man who did the best he could given the infantile nature of Republicans and Congress as a whole." which is vastly different from your quote here.

No, it really wasn't. And no, you're still not worth scrolling back to check/quote beyond the current post. (Which should be a big clue how much I actually give a shit about anything you have to say now, by the way. Hint: It's absolutely negligible, seeing as how I doubt you have the brain power to comprehend something without it being spelled out for you.)

By stating because, you've given me intentions that weren't mine.

No, I really didn't. I was stating my opinion as a (mistaken) follow-up of your post.

I didn't like Obama because of how he handled Republicans to achieve his goal. That's the part where you're wrong and where I criticize you.

I don't give two shits what you like or don't like. Again: Self-important much?

But it seems that you're awfully aggressive the second someone points a fallacy, so have a good day, I guess.

You should go back and read your original reply. God forbid someone treats you the way you treat them.

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Trump

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[Macaquerie]

The glory of "the winter take it all system" Reagan 51% vs 41% for Carter of the popular votes, go to the history as one of the bigest roflstomp.

As a foreigner, I have never understood Carter/Reagan verdict about the Iran Hostage debacle. Carter did try a daring raid that fail spectacularly, so he deserve the blame, but Reagan cave in to Iran and sell/smuggling wepon to Iran, pull out of Libanon becuse of terrorist attack and is judge as a hard/tough/fighting persident.

You can't really hold Reagan accountable for any policies, because for the most part he had no hand in deciding any of them, and was just there to be a puppet of corporate America who would parrot conservative talking points in a folksy, comforting way. The only reason he gets worshiped these days is that he was the only Republican president since Eisenhower who wasn't a complete fucking disaster, ironically because of his wholehearted embrace of the same military-industrial complex that Ike warned us all about. I have yet to see any Reagan loyalists really make a coherent argument about WHY he was such a great president.

[Raunchy]

Id say trump, yea a couple of 20 somethings that are crying because they didnt get there way for the first time in their life are bitchin, but overall sensible and adults seems to be ok with thr man.

[jrf773]

https://books.google.com/books?id=uP...page&q&f=false

Near Page 16 has a couple of poles that they rated the US Presidents up through Reagan. Interesting at the least.

[breadisfunny]

If you remove about 6 things from what Bush did, he was actually pretty good. Granted, those 6 things had generational impact. If he lost the reelection, I think he would have been seen in a far better light.

I've soften greatly on Bush over the last 2 months. I don't seem to be the only one, as he is making political rounds again.

president bush was awash in scandal after scandal after scandal. he subverted the constitution with the patriot act. he started a war just to enrich his buddies. he and dick cheney are war criminals.

kim jong ill for best leader ever!