Why is Antifa not banned yet??

[Thage]

I'm confused. Are we actively advocating banning an ideology based on the opposition of an ideology rooted in genocide and racial supremacy? If so, why aren't we also advocating banning the ideology rooted in genocide and racial supremacy? Furthermore, why are the people who beat their meat while repeating the words 'Free Speech' arguing in favor of this ban when it is inherently a massive violation of the First Amendment in the US and similar protections worldwide? Further-furthermore, are we really drumming up sympathy for neo-fascism because a bunch of sad idiots on the internet are catching on that the only way to chase Nazis out is by beating the hell out of them, as the punk scene has had to do for decades now?

[Deleted]

They have learnt from other lefties that simply declaring themselves as anti-fascists justifies their inherent violent tendencies and somehow elevates them above being sub-human pieces of shit.

This is not a thing inherent of defining of the "lefties", or something to be learnt from them.
Nor do I think Antifa are sub-human in any sense. They're as human as the next guy: a fucking mess seeking a release valve for their frustrations. They're easily dealt with, as we deal with violent hooligans in sports events.

[JohnBrown1917]

A other reason he won cause of this

Kinda hard for me to have any influence as a non-American.

[Deleted]

Trump won, because Hillary is a shitty human being, and there's no shortage of ignorant people in my country. I didn't vote for either, so I was going to be unhappy regardless of the outcome.

I never called you a Nazi, I called you a fascist and an Islamophobe. I based it off of your comments. You do not like Muslims, and wish to take away their freedoms based on that. You also want to "abolish" all religions. You are a nationalistic authoritarian. That makes you an Islamophobic fascist by definition.

The victim card is pathetic, you should really stop trying to use it. Maybe if you stopped supporting nationalism and oppression, people wouldn't call you those things. You make about as much sense as the people who wanted to ban gay marriage, when they tried to say they weren't homophobes. You've already stated WHY you are bigoted against Muslims, so it's ridiculous for you to get upset when you are actually called out for it.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Islamophobe

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fascism

Yep, I'm fine with calling you both.

They can call me however they want I don't get offended by them.

Ey I support Gay marriage, im realy okay with that

Ey I can't use the victim card? after you used the Fascist card like 3+ times already give me a break dude.

There is nothing wrong with being a Nationalist.

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Kinda hard for me to have any influence as a non-American.

Nah I mean in general calling 50% of Americns retarded

[Zython]

Well if they have any power, they kill you. I don't know if you've been paying attention though, but Nazis aren't a) in power, and b) holding any public favour.

What the hell are you talking about? Fascists have been rising all across the US and Europe. Hungary, Poland, and Russia are fascist states. Countries like Italy, Greece, and France have fascist parties with significant power. And the U.S. is being run by Steven Bannon, another fascist.

Communists on the other hand? Well google the phrase "punch a nazi" (or other variants) and watch the mainstream media and twitter at large defend political violence against people they wrongly label fascist and nazi.

Yes. Because the only people who think Jews deserve to live are communists. Right.

"Punching unarmed civilians unconscious for wrong-think is not inherently evil"

Fuck me. The world is doomed.

Explain why fascism is an acceptable ideology that should be tolerated in our society.

Not labelling terrorists 'terrorist' spreads the message that political violence is totally acceptable.

Yes, fascism must be stopped, and violence has been shown to be the only effective tool against it.

[Machismo]

They can call me however they want I don't get offended by them.

Ey I support Gay marriage, im realy okay with that

Ey I can't use the victim card? after you used the Fascist card like 3+ times already give me a break dude.

There is nothing wrong with being a Nationalist.

When you are a bigoted nationalist, who wishes to oppress people based on his bigotry... then you are pushing into fascism territory. You fit the definitions of the damn word. You don't like Muslims, we get it. Stop whining when someone uses the word that describes what you have already made so very clear.

[klogaroth]

Kinda hard for me to have any influence as a non-American.

Dammit Gilrak. You should've know it was Dutch MMO-Champion posters that would decide the US election. It's your fault. Specifically you.

[JohnBrown1917]

Nah I mean in general calling 50% of Americns retarded

30%~

But damn, that is what caused Trump to win?
Holy fuck, I can influence a election by myself, suck it, Putin and de Hond!

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Dammit Gilrak. You should've know it was Dutch MMO-Champion posters that would decide the US election. It's your fault. Specifically you.

Better start putting your bets on Kanye for 2020.

[Zython]

Fuck. We need a genocide against white people if only to hammer in the idea that GENOCIDE IS BAD! Because pointing out the blindingly obvious clearly isn't working.

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I'm confused. Are we actively advocating banning an ideology based on the opposition of an ideology rooted in genocide and racial supremacy? If so, why aren't we also advocating banning the ideology rooted in genocide and racial supremacy? Furthermore, why are the people who beat their meat while repeating the words 'Free Speech' arguing in favor of this ban when it is inherently a massive violation of the First Amendment in the US and similar protections worldwide? Further-furthermore, are we really drumming up sympathy for neo-fascism because a bunch of sad idiots on the internet are catching on that the only way to chase Nazis out is by beating the hell out of them, as the punk scene has had to do for decades now?

The answer to all of this is that nothing means anything anymore.

[Deleted]

30%~

But damn, that is what caused Trump to win?
Holy fuck, I can influence a election by myself, suck it, Putin and de Hond!

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Better start putting your bets on Kanye for 2020.

You and like millions of others, better?

[Zython]

Better start putting your bets on Zython for 2020.

FTFY.

Zython: You Fuckers Had Your Chance.

[JohnBrown1917]

You and like millions of others, better?

Well, atleast its true, people living in Europa get the Americans to do stupid shit, But I always though it was Russia alone!

[Deleted]

Yes, fascism must be stopped, and violence has been shown to be the only effective tool against it.

Kill one and two pop up. It's like white hairs.
Since it's still around, violence has been shown to be a tool that doesn't stop it.

[Kanariya]

This connection is hilariously stupid.

wanting assurance that you won't be beaten unconscious for wrong-think is not the same as wanting assurance that your opinions won't be challenged.

Being. A. Nazi. Isn't. An. Opinion. It's not "wrong-think." It's an active stance taken stating that all non-white, non-able bodied and non-cisgendered people should be eradicated. That isn't an opinion, it isn't a thought. It most certainly doesn't deserve any kind of platform or even the slightest amount of tolerance.

[JohnBrown1917]

FTFY.

Zython: You Fuckers Had Your Chance.

I'm going to call Kanye voters retarded so that he'll win, checkmate!



p.s
Those who vote on Labour, the greens, the socialists or the party for the animals are retards!!
Just using my newfound powers.

[bladeXcrasher]

If you're not a Nazi why are you afraid of Nazi beaters?

Because they said it's OK to punch Libertarian white males in the same breathe? That doesn't even make sense...

[Dug]

Kill one and two pop up. It's like white hairs.
Since it's still around, violence has been shown to be a tool that doesn't stop it.

WW2 disagrees

[pfbe]

Antifa isn't banned for more or less the same reason the KKK, BLM or any other "we gud, dey bad" group isn't banned either: there is no reason to ban them.

Despite the odd punch, despite the black bloc's predilection with destroying the odd window or trash can, they have not yet crossed the threshold that would trigger a ban. If they were to act like this outside political demonstrations, if they were to simply go around and punch people left and right and destroy stuff left and right with no provocation, and did so regularly for a long period of time, THEN and only then would a ban be justifiable.

Really, don't go down the road of bans, it's a very very sharp blade that cuts not just both ways, it cuts all ways. Besides, the public image of antifa and their ideological banners is only suffering through their actions, even if some people get all giddy with the rhetoric of "punch a nazi n shieet". No need to ban them, just let them act out their tantrum and they'll do all the work of discrediting themselves. That and go after their funding, you wouldn't believe how quickly those "organizers" will stop giving a flying fuck when the money dries up.

[Aggrophobic]

They are blatent terrorists.. assaulting unarmed people and elderly threathening to kill right winged people

And how would you do that?

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WW2 disagrees

Guess Zython will have to invade Poland then, since it's a "fascist state".