Dear Blizzard, we don´t like diablofied WoW

[TheFirstOnes]

Rng crafting. Rng 5 man gear. Sockets removed and shoved into rng. Rng weekly cache. Rng coin system stayed. Rng warforge stayed, reforging removed. yes no rng to see here no casino. Ding dong bannu

*Looks at the Mission table*

*Does his missions*

*Gets 710 Gear*

*Then gets 725 Warforged gear from his second chest*

*Does his Legendary grind*

*Does his Garrison stuff*

Much RNG...Much grind...

*Goes to sleep*

[FelPlague]

Yes you are right. Wow was very popular during tbc/wotlk etc.
But since wod this game is dying.
Dying very fast.

the game has actuallty grown since wod quite abit, if its now on the decline? who knows we cant tell, but it seems to be very active, and with 7.2 allready soon to come it will only raise up higher

[Ielenia]

No amount of skill can compensate flat 10% of missing damage because you didn't grind M+ non-stop as some shitard game designer at Blizz envisioned.

I can't help but laugh every time someone parrot up that dumb argument. AP wasn't designed to be a grind, because you can get it everywhere. You don't need that .5% extra damage if you don't get that last rank right away. But if you do need that rank, right away, then guess what? If AP didn't exist, you'd be grinding a different part of the content, spouting the same complaint about how you are somehow "forced" grind.

[FelPlague]

Rng crafting. Rng 5 man gear. Sockets removed and shoved into rng. Rng weekly cache. Rng coin system stayed. Rng warforge stayed, reforging removed. yes no rng to see here no casino. Ding dong bannu

rng weekly cache and coin system were not in the game before, so adding it wasent "making something rng" it was just adding something that was RNG...
would yo urather it dident exist? or be rng

[Dawon]

And by "we" you mean "you", thank you for your opinion which doesn't match mine at all basically!

Oh and I love Diablo 3! ... so get your "we" statement out of that title!

[Ielenia]

Rng 5 man gear.

What is this supposed to mean? 5-man loot tables were always RNG.

Rng weekly cache. Rng coin system stayed. Rng warforge stayed,

You're complaining that you can have bonus loot chances that gives you another chance of getting the item you didn't get in the raid? Complaining about the weekly caches, coin system and warforge system seems... dumb and pointless for me.

[Trickname]

Oh another "I don't like something so EVERYONE must hate it" thread.

[Ielenia]

Im not even going to discuss the need for ap grind. Get back under the rock you have been hiding under casual scum

Because there is no need for the grind. Unless you're trying to min-max things ASAP, which means that, even if AP didn't exist, you'd still be grinding another part of the content, so complaining about "having to grind for AP to stay competitive" is nothing more than a whine. Of course you gotta grind to stay competitive. If not AP, then it'd be something else you'd have to grind. It's like a boxing player complaining that he has to train to keep himself competitive.

[MyndZero]

I can tell you I've quit because of these Diablo-inspired changes.

[callipygoustp]

I don't see how having two Diablo games is a bad thing! It was cool having WoW and Diablo, but, fuck diversity in gaming. More Diablo!!!!
/s

[Matthias]

Why the fuck it is even remotely GOOD thing? I want to experience stuff, I want to try different gameplay. How the fuck being timewalled from that and locked from other choice to can even remotely be "good"?

Except before you could get "done" for the week in a evening and then chose to either do optional content not related to progression, go play something else or you know, go for a walk outside. You know that world exists outside basement, do you? Now you either sacrifice your life to WoW or you're permanently behind. No amount of skill can compensate flat 10% of missing damage because you didn't grind M+ non-stop as some shitard game designer at Blizz envisioned.

And EXACTLY THAT is beyond fucktarded. I want to play game and finish it in reasonable time. Regular game is 60 hours. Ok, this is MMO, I get it, let's multiply that by 5. I want to "finish" one character in one content tier in no more than 300 hours. "You can't finish"? Fuck this shit. Don't you have anything else to do besides WoW? Well, I do.

I used to be back when it was called "heroic". You could catch up pretty quickly on bosses people didn't need and then it was only your skill that mattered. Not today. I want to "play" as in "show skill", not "grind" as in "be absolutely required to spend no less than specified amount of time".

Bro with all do respect it just seems like your throwing a tantrum demanding that's possible to complete the game within 2 weeks. If you just clear the given raid on Heroic and do your Mythic 15, for the week, you don't have to do anything else. I don't grind jack.

The only thing I agree with is that the Paragon trait is stupid, I despise it. I was totally fine with Artifact Weapons till I realized the final trait was a flat 15% buff that need points thrown into it. Now as a tank I could give a squat, same as a healer but as a DPS it's dumb. My Artifact is at 48 right now on my main and I can keep up with people at 54 trait players. At 35 traits you should be competitive in a pug environment if your gear is up to par. So yeah if you are skilled enough you shouldn't be crying about it.

I do plenty outside of WoW, the difference is I actually have the option to progress on my main if I so choose, which I think is great. If I choose not to, as a casual I'm still competitive enough.

I guess I'm just old school though. Vanilla WoW and TBC could have literally lasted another entire year due to the fact that a massive majority of the player base still had far more to do in terms of character progression, since most never even saw BT or Naxx. WoTLK Blizz kinda shot themselves in the foot and the content droughts started, since completing toons became so easy.

I think this is a good solution in terms of a modern iteration of WoW. Naturally it needs some tweeks no xpac is perfect.

[McNeil]

Not every Diablo feature is bad for the game but at the same time I don't feel that its actually improving the game much either. Its not the first time that Blizzard borrows ideas from other games that eventually leads to succes.

[m4xc4v413r4]

Of course more people will be loping up blizzards shit then agreeing with op . The vast majority these diablo systems drive away dont stick around on the blizzard wankfest forums to consult the white knight brigade

This coming from the guy that is crying, complaining and cyclejerking on every post is just beautiful, bye bye

[Gevoth]

I disagree.

[tyrlaan]

It was a rhetorical trick I used to divert attention from myself to a larger group of people. It is not just me. Different opinions are great and it is okay to like the game so in that case you are banished from that "we".

i.e. you were deliberately being deceptive.

The world has enough BS, it doesn't need yours added to it.

[Deleted]

Same here. Half way out the door with WoW right now, and when I truly stop playing wow, I'll pretty much be done with Blizzard. I don't play any other Blizzard game save, rarely, some Overwatch, and I don't like OW that much either.

There was a time when "Blizzard" meant "Quality". Now...meh, it just means "6/10 rated multiplayer-only games that are stupid to play alone".

[Moozart]

So, it's fine to speak for "most of people" as long as YOU doing it, eh?

actually I spent 5 mins reading over the thread and saw what the majority response was... not rocket science

[callipygoustp]

Love how many people nitpicked the use of a pronoun rather than discussing the content of the actual criticism. Quality discourse that is.

[anaxie]

rng weekly cache and coin system were not in the game before, so adding it wasent "making something rng" it was just adding something that was RNG...
would yo urather it dident exist? or be rng

Removed entirely go back to pre MoP gear model

[Hctaz]

AP is fine.
DPS legendaries are fine.
RNG is awful.

I don't think DPS legendary items are fine. They should all just be utility for the raid or the person like the DK cloak, warlock pants, and windwalker ring. Shouldn't be flat dps increases for anybody. That would actually make them all exciting and change up how you do fights based on certain thing. Don't have a warlock with the pants? Can't do the strat that your warlocks use to shift portals around mid fight.

And this is coming from somebody who has pretty good legendary items.

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Same here. Half way out the door with WoW right now, and when I truly stop playing wow, I'll pretty much be done with Blizzard. I don't play any other Blizzard game save, rarely, some Overwatch, and I don't like OW that much either.

There was a time when "Blizzard" meant "Quality". Now...meh, it just means "6/10 rated multiplayer-only games that are stupid to play alone".

Well to be fair WoW is sorta an MMORPG which is all about group play.