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    Yeah, pretty sure most people at this point call East Jimmy JimmyG, not Graham.

    I still think there is no way BB goes into the draft with no picks before mid 3rd round. Jimmy is gone to Cleveland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Belichick View Post
    Yeah, pretty sure most people at this point call East Jimmy JimmyG, not Graham.

    I still think there is no way BB goes into the draft with no picks before mid 3rd round. Jimmy is gone to Cleveland.
    I think they might still trade Butler instead to recoup the picks. They can't do that right now though, cause he's a restricted free agent with a tender on him. As long as he doesn;t sign that tender, the Patriots can't do anything with him, as he is technically not under contract right now.

    It's basically, Butler has till April 21st to get some team to make him a contract offer that he can take to the Patriots and give them the option to match. If the Patriots match, they keep him at the contract he negotiated. If they don't they get the highest first round pick that the other team owns (hence why the Saints won't try to nab Butler, cause they'd give up the 12th pick in the Draft in the process, which they obviously don;t want).

    On April 21st Butler has to sign his tender (or sit out the year basically) and then about 6 days later the Draft is held. Plenty of time for the Patriots to deal a now under contract Butler.

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    And honestly, it's all fun and games, but if Hightower doesn't sign back, we have a problem on defense that we'll need to solve and no draft picks to solve it. Things could go from fantastic to in deep doodoo in short order for the Patriots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xskarma View Post
    And honestly, it's all fun and games, but if Hightower doesn't sign back, we have a problem on defense that we'll need to solve and no draft picks to solve it. Things could go from fantastic to in deep doodoo in short order for the Patriots.
    We're still in need of a slot CB (desperately might I add).
    Signing Branch and Harmon was huge, but it's almost for naught if we can't get Hightower back to lead the LBs

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    Quote Originally Posted by WskyDK View Post
    We're still in need of a slot CB (desperately might I add).
    Signing Branch and Harmon was huge, but it's almost for naught if we can't get Hightower back to lead the LBs
    I'm going to guess that the staff think that Cyrus Jones, Jonathan Jones or Justin Coleman can fill in that role if they have a full training camp to get into that role. Cyrus is a second round pick, with a year to get ready to play on defense. That job should be his to lose.

    They might also bring in a rookie or free agent still to do it. Plenty of cap space to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xskarma View Post
    "#Raiders agree on a 2 year deal with OT Marshall Newhouse, source said."

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    Originally saw this and thought "eh, squad depth" then realise he graded out better than either of our RTs last season.

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    Patriots got Cooks from the Saints and retain Butler!!!

    Holy balls. BB is truly playing 5D chess while some teams are playing Candyland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xskarma View Post
    Seems like Donta is visiting the Bayou. Donta, pls.
    Don't do this to me, Hightower.

    Please, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xskarma View Post
    I'm going to guess that the staff think that Cyrus Jones, Jonathan Jones or Justin Coleman can fill in that role if they have a full training camp to get into that role. Cyrus is a second round pick, with a year to get ready to play on defense. That job should be his to lose.

    They might also bring in a rookie or free agent still to do it. Plenty of cap space to do so.
    Oh I get that we have the time and money to fix it, but some folks don't seem to realize that Gilmore and Butler are outside CBs.
    I always forget about Cyrus Jones. Every now and then I'll see his name and an "oh yeah" moment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    His name is hard to spell.
    Just call him Mr. Polo then.
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    We can sign Hightower to a good deal and still have plenty of cap space left. Really we don't have to deal too much with Butler, but I hope Butler (a true hero) gets his due as well.

    Both Hightower and Butler have been legit big moment players for the Pats. They turned the course of history. They should be legends with the Patriots.

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    Hightower cancels NO visit.

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    JJ Wilcox to the Bucs. Two years, 8.5 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packers01 View Post
    Will Cook was not really home grown. And while I wanted him back, he really has had about a 1/2 of a good year. The guy asked for too much.

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    Please trade Butler to the Packers
    Sure. Just send us Matthews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Belichick View Post
    Sure. Just send us Matthews.
    Yuck. I'd rather have picks.

    No offense to the Packers fans, and I can acknowledge Matthews is a good player, but he's also a bit of a douchenozzle and rather getting up there in age. I don't want him.

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    Eh, I'd still be ok with Matthews in our LB core. And he's like, 30?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Belichick View Post
    Eh, I'd still be ok with Matthews in our LB core. And he's like, 30?
    31 start of the season. I'd rather have a young linebacker with no preconceived ideas that's freshly coached into how to play in the NFL by BB.

    Even more so I'd rather just have Donta Hightower re-signed and no real need at linebacker at all.

    Maybe a replacement for McLellin, cause that dude was pretty awful outside of special teams.

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    Well yeah. The idea was Matthews and Hightower.

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    "The #Patriots are signing former #Ravens DL Lawrence Guy to a 4-year contract worth up to $20M, source said."

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    Doug Free retiring. Damn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Doug Free retiring. Damn
    Master gave Dougy a sock. Dougy is Free now!


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    @gyrados

    "Getting a bunch of texts from scouts at UW & it sounds like Sidney Jones suffered a significant lower leg injury. Feel terrible for him."

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    Well that sucks. One of the top corners in the draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xskarma View Post
    Master gave Dougy a sock. Dougy is Free now!
    I curse thee to lose Hightower!

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