Turkish foreign minister campaigning in Western Europe

[Kuntantee]

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/2...caleert__.html (its in dutch but you can click the movies)

This is a right-wing news website though, the more main stream media are only reporting minor violence as the police is trying to clear the square

There is only a single image in that site. Am I missing something? Can you embed the video using [VIDEO] tag?

[Fuiking]

FvD ? which one was that? Baudet crap?

[Deleted]

Absolute right in the sense that you are NOT entitled to protest, even if you are disturbing the public order. The right to assemble and the right to speak freely says enough about the extent of the freedoms involved in such concept.

Didn't you see the ''no'' in front of absolute right? are you actually trolling me right now?

There is no absolute right, meaning it is okay to limit the right to protest, for example by requiring people to pre-announce their protests and making them only protest in assigned spaces.

That is just the legal reality in every country, including Turkey.

[Cairhiin]

It is the most of any new political party this election, tied with FvD which is an even bigger joke

While true, they can't affect policy, and won't be part of the government.

[Deleted]

FvD ? which one was that? Baudet crap?

Yes ./10chars

[Fuiking]

oh my those jokers...

[Deleted]

There is only a single image in that site. Am I missing something? Can you embed the video using [VIDEO] tag?

No idea how to embed, but heres the direct links

https://twitter.com/vlegol/status/840724289443753984

https://twitter.com/janpaul_b/status/840723235117371395

[ranzino]

got german news the minister is indeed sent back to germany. the convoy is escorted also by helicopters; seems they think she get lost ...or likely astray ?

oh, it will be headaches in europe today and monday, get your Aspirine™ while it lasts.

[Puupi]

There is only a single image in that site. Am I missing something? Can you embed the video using [VIDEO] tag?

There is a twitter feed with videos on that page. Is Turkey banning you from twitter again?

[Deleted]

While true, they can't affect policy, and won't be part of the government.

I wouldn't be so sure about that, SGP was super influential during the last election because the government had to get shifting majorities for the senate, SGP only has 2 seats in the parliament.

Especially given the fact that no party will (probably) get over 30 seats, there might just be some very large impact for retarded splinter parties like Denk, VNL (if they get anything) and SGP

[Deleted]

These three give you right to assemble and protest at anywhere so long as you do not disturb the public order, like blocking the roads etc. Even in Turkish constitution, we have such freedom, although not allowed by the law enforcement.

I am quite positive that you have something similar in your law, if not, you have a shitty constitution.

How is this not disturbing public order? Clear and evident from the start. But im glad youre enjoying the constitution while you can. The turks have been misleading and forcefull all the way through.

Update:

Consul general lied about intention of todays meeding to local mayor (denying outright thered be a gathering whilst internally asking turks to come) ; on top of that the other minister of family and living that was send to the netherlands by car crossed the border with multiple convoys in order to mislead dutch police forces (the plane minister went to france)

[Fuiking]

totally unrelated while refreshing i refreshed my music list, gg

[Cairhiin]

I wouldn't be so sure about that, SGP was super influential during the last election because the government had to get shifting majorities for the senate, SGP only has 2 seats in the parliament.

Especially given the fact that no party will (probably) get over 30 seats, there might just be some very large impact for retarded splinter parties like Denk, VNL (if they get anything) and SGP

I seriously doubt if VVD wins the election they take DENK into government. And to be honest, after today, it looks like VVD will win the elections again.

[Moratori]

There is a twitter feed with videos on that page. Is Turkey banning you from twitter again?

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/2...caleert__.html

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There's no videos on that page.

[Kuntantee]

Didn't you see the ''no'' in front of absolute right? are you actually trolling me right now?

There is no absolute right, meaning it is okay to limit the right to protest, for example by requiring people to pre-announce their protests and making them only protest in assigned spaces.

That is just the legal reality in every country, including Turkey.

I am not trolling you. The absolute here is not a vague term. It means absolute right. Not having an absolute right does not bar having rights to assemble and speak without permission. Freedom to assembly and freedom of speech are manifestations of freedom to protest. As for your assumption, here is some information for you.

34th article of Turkish constitution:

madde 34. - herkes, önceden izin almadan, silahsız ve saldırısız toplantı ve gösteri yürüyüşü düzenleme hakkına sahiptir. [...]

Translates: Anyone, without having a prior permission, is entitled to, without arms and in a peaceful way, assemble and march.

[Puupi]

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/2...caleert__.html

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There's no videos on that page.

Yes, there are. 3 videos on my screen.

[Cairhiin]

Consul general lied about intention of todays meeding to local mayor (denying outright thered be a gathering whilst internally asking turks to come) ; on top of that the other minister of family and living that was send to the netherlands by car crossed the border with multiple convoys in order to mislead dutch police forces (the plane minister went to france)

Yeah Aboutaleb is not happy. Also, the Turkish minister came to Holland despite she was told she wasn't welcome here. She should call herself lucky she didn't get detained and thrown in jail. which no doubt would've happened if the situation was reversed.

[OIS]

I guess we should send van Persie back in retaliation, he did not meet our expectations anyway.

[Cairhiin]

It's not about the government, it's about a majority in the parliament for when you want to push laws.

The VVD still won't rely on DENK for that.

[Moratori]

Yes, there are. 3 videos on my screen.

Where?