Shaun King - The Democratic Party seems to have no earthly idea why it is so damn unp

[Kallisto]

Hey I agree with you, I can't believe people bought into Trump's insincere pandering.

I know, it's more a post out of frustration to how people seem to be so removed from reality that I can't comprehend it. It's more a post trying to figure out a way to have someone bring them to reality that isn't essentially waiting for them to die out.

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I think the idea here is that when you got a candidate like Trump, who is trying to promote a message of job stability to these people, they are naturally going to flock to it. Is Trump really going to stop companies from fleeing the country? Time will tell, but his message definitely has been believable that he will be combating it. This is an issue that is not important to some people obviously, but for some, their very livelihood depends on their job not being outsourced.

Keep in mind that the biggest quality of life issue for these folks is having a job, and then from there, being able to do with their life what they want. The left simply hasn't provided a real answer here, besides telling coal miners that they should "go into the tech field" which is obviously not a realistic response. Ultimately these people voted for someone who is giving them what they want.

Again anyone with an ounce of understanding of reality knows these jobs are not coming back. No amount of emotional desperation can excuse voting for things that are clearly so far removed from reality that even a child can see it's less real than Santa or the easter bunny.

[McFuu]

the only mostly explicitly kinda sorta leftish channel is MSNBC, and their nothing compared to Fox's level of right leaning. ABC, CBS, PBS etc are pretty unbaised and CNN are the kings of wishy washy fear of calling anyone out.

Again, stahp. You are making a decent observation and killing it with a ridiculous attack. Saying Fox is anymore slanted than CNN or MSNBC is pretty ridiculous, they all walk the line of basically not being news. They are a couple of steps removed from Comedy Central.

CNN has a nick name for a reason, they are left and for sale judging from the last election. MSNBC is also decently left. ABC and CBS I have no opinion of either way. CSPAN is actually decent.

[THE Bigzoman]

You're all just sad.

So sad.


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[Coffeh]

We living in dangerous times of constant muslim terrorist threats and democrats ain't not gonna cut it to protect your children.

You're not allowed to call them muslim extremists. That's part of the Dems' problem. If you can't even identify a threat, how can you possibly combat it?

[Kellhound]

The issue here is, on both the left and right to win in a lot of places you literally CANNOT run on reality, you have to run on turning back the clock, if someone ran for Governor of WV on a platform actually based in reality and just straight up told the electorate the honest truth, that those old coal jobs are simply never coming back they'd be utterly CRUSHED. People hate it when Politicians lie but they seem to LOVE to be lied to more than to hear the truth when it's an uncomfortable hard truth.

"Your livelihood, and the industry that has sustained this state for generations has been destroyed by others and there is nothing we can do about it. Just move to another state because this one is doomed. Mind you, you are not prepared for the lower wages that comes with the service based economy and will likely never see a decent job again in your lifetime. But you will get to enjoy watching even more of the population becoming unemployed along side you in your new state." It is so hard to see why the truth wouldnt sell....

[Sky High]

Could it be that they are unpopular because the majority are getting sick of progressive policies and political correctness?

maybe if this were true you'd have a point.

[WernerCD]

There's just no point even taking you seriously. You don't get it. You'll never get it.

Because the Democrats portray themselves as adults and are held to standards befitting adults.

The Republicans don't make that mistake.

Blocking traffic, wearing pussy hats and "protesting" against Trump doing the same things Obama did - but under the Republican Banner... oh yeah... Democrats are the "Adults". eye roll indeed.

[kasuke06]

so basically, people want change and outsiders, and the democrats don't.

[THE Bigzoman]

Maybe when you guys are done being Salty Sams you can think of something.

But until then, a lot of shit has happend, and you're still unpopular.

It's a lot like a sports team getting all the calls their way but they still lose the game.

[Seezer]

Could it be that they are unpopular because the majority are getting sick of progressive policies and political correctness?

The same people who crow over political correctness are the same people who get offended that a Starbucks cup doesn't say "MERRY CHRISTMAS!". I mean look how thin skinned the leader of the whole "Political Correctness is destroying this country" is. The guy cries and gets offended over the slightest criticism. It's the same thing.

Democrats aren't unpopular. It's that they refused to get dirty like the republicans do. They don't have people spreading dumb shit like pizzagate. Politics have become a sport to many Americans. Much to the detriment of the country. It's about "My side winning, your side losing". And that's how it's all going to come apart. Many people don't give a shit about the issues or even understand them. They look for a headline, spout it off on facebook and on forums and get mad. History is going to look back at this point and see "This is where America fucked things up.". America has had it too good for too long. And when you're comfortable it's easy to be a raging drama queen. And for things like "My side winning/your side losing" to become important. People just don't realize how damaging that mentality is going to be to America.

That's the true threat.

[Mgann-Morzz]

"Your livelihood, and the industry that has sustained this state for generations has been destroyed by others and there is nothing we can do about it. Just move to another state because this one is doomed. Mind you, you are not prepared for the lower wages that comes with the service based economy and will likely never see a decent job again in your lifetime. But you will get to enjoy watching even more of the population becoming unemployed along side you in your new state." It is so hard to see why the truth wouldnt sell....

It wasn't destroyed by others, they were destroyed by natural economic forces, simply put they got outcompeted. That's how capitalism works.

And yes obviously it's a hard sell but It's the reality those states find themselves in, they cannot substain the population levels they have now, even with a mass economic overhaul that still wouldn't create enough jobs for EVERYONE in that state probably. Denying reality isn't gonna get them anywhere.

[Seezer]

Maybe when you guys are done being Salty Sams you can think of something.

But until then, a lot of shit has happend, and you're still unpopular.

It's a lot like a sports team getting all the calls their way but they still lose the game.

The right spent 8 years crying about Obama and making up dumb shit. There are none more salty.

[Seezer]

so basically, people want change and outsiders, and the democrats don't.

Trump is not an outsider. He's proven that already. He is part of the establishment. He just isn't a politician. And his approval rating is in the shitter right now. People are starting to realize they got duped. He loved talking about how Hillary and Cruz were property of Goldman Sachs, and then he turned right around and gave 5 Goldman Sachs execs cabinet positions. He's a hypocrite on a massive scale. America is going to get change. Unfortunately a destructive one.

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Blocking traffic, wearing pussy hats and "protesting" against Trump doing the same things Obama did - but under the Republican Banner... oh yeah... Democrats are the "Adults". eye roll indeed.

Except you don't label everyone as the same. If that were the case we could label all republicans as morons who believe pizzagate was a real thing and that Obama is secretly a lizard alien (compliments of Alex Jones). And if a pussy hat ruffles your feathers then I think you're easily offended.

[kasuke06]

Trump is not an outsider. He's proven that already. He is part of the establishment. He just isn't a politician. And his approval rating is in the shitter right now. People are starting to realize they got duped. He loved talking about how Hillary and Cruz were property of Goldman Sachs, and then he turned right around and gave 5 Goldman Sachs execs cabinet positions. He's a hypocrite on a massive scale. America is going to get change. Unfortunately a destructive one.

He was more of an outsider than Shillary was. And he knew how to use people's hate to get the most screen time. Dem hate makes him legitimate in most people's eyes, specifically because they kicked the people's hopes right in the dick with steel toe boots during the election, so if they hate him, he must be what people want!

If you don't learn to at least try to appeal to people, then you're just as blind as every coal miner and factory worker wearing a MAGA hat today.

[Seezer]

He was more of an outsider than Shillary was. And he knew how to use people's hate to get the most screen time. Dem hate makes him legitimate in most people's eyes, specifically because they kicked the people's hopes right in the dick with steel toe boots during the election, so if they hate him, he must be what people want!

If you don't learn to at least try to appeal to people, then you're just as blind as every coal miner and factory worker wearing a MAGA hat today.

He's on the same level of Shillery as Hillary. People are starting to realize they've been duped. And that he was the one that was on Goldman Sachs dick. But he is good at deflecting that shit. While being the true offender. They call it projection. He accuses others of the same shit he does. Just in a more wack job kind of way. I mean could you imagine if that Yemen raid would have happened under Hillary? People would be calling for her head in the streets. But Trump apologists will just say "It was Obama's plan!". Well, what they don't realize is how quickly intelligence changes. Especially with guys that don't stay in one place for long. Intel changes minute by minute, hour by hour. And if you're using a month old Operation plan for a current Op, then you're an incompetent leader who put others lives at risk.

And again, Trump isn't doing anything for the common citizen. And they're going to learn the hard way. That you don't listen to people like him and put faith in what they say.

[Kellhound]

It wasn't destroyed by others, they were destroyed by natural economic forces, simply put they got outcompeted. That's how capitalism works.

And yes obviously it's a hard sell but It's the reality those states find themselves in, they cannot substain the population levels they have now, even with a mass economic overhaul that still wouldn't create enough jobs for EVERYONE in that state probably. Denying reality isn't gonna get them anywhere.

Environmental regulation is not a capitalistic influence.

No amount of "overhaul" is going to help the US as a whole. We dug our hole and we will bury ourselves in it.

[Collegeguy]

Maybe the Democrats will figure out a working platform. Maybe do something radical. Highly doubt it.

[Deletedaccount1]

Shaun King is pretty hit-or-miss when it comes to his commentary, and I've found just as much I disagree with as I agree with. But IMO this is a pretty great quick look at the problems the DNC is facing, and their complete lack of any direction.

If nothing else, the polling numbers are pretty incredible. The DNC is even more disliked than Congress, though at least it's also more popular so...it's a wash? >.>

The party is becoming increasingly controlled by campus socialists and that scares people as it rightfully should. The DNC is disliked because they rigged an election for a candidate who was already probably going to win and was more popular with the electorate.

[kasuke06]

He's on the same level of Shillery as Hillary. People are starting to realize they've been duped. And that he was the one that was on Goldman Sachs dick. But he is good at deflecting that shit. While being the true offender. They call it projection. He accuses others of the same shit he does. Just in a more wack job kind of way. I mean could you imagine if that Yemen raid would have happened under Hillary? People would be calling for her head in the streets. But Trump apologists will just say "It was Obama's plan!". Well, what they don't realize is how quickly intelligence changes. Especially with guys that don't stay in one place for long. Intel changes minute by minute, hour by hour. And if you're using a month old Operation plan for a current Op, then you're an incompetent leader who put others lives at risk.

And again, Trump isn't doing anything for the common citizen. And they're going to learn the hard way. That you don't listen to people like him and put faith in what they say.

yup. but the million dollar question is : Will the democrats actually learn anything from this? So far, it's looking like no. They're sticking with the "Guys just listen to the top person. Ignore your own wants,needs,thoughts, and whatever else makes you an individual, just follow the shepherd." they need to look at what cost them the election, and work hard to show that they are the party who will fix things, not just say it.

Keep in mind, I have voted fiscally conservative(on the "moral" things, I really don't care who's humping who as long as everyone involved is a consenting adult) since I got the privilege of voting. And even I'm mildly afraid that "my side" has all the power, no one side should have all the power, and as with all things, healthy competition breeds greatness.

[xChurch]

The solution is pretty simple, they just need a more liberal/socialist policies and some people with the charisma and enthusiasm to help people understand why that's better. America really doesn't need two Right-wing parties.