If its unilaterally all religions then go for it.
Yes, this ruling specifically states that the banning of headscarfs (dunno why the topic is about burqas, though I guess similar rules apply) is only legitimate if it is a part of a more broader ban on religious signs in the workplace.
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Actually, this judgement said that head scarf bans are only legal in the context where other religious symbols are also banned as part of a dress code
I had to google it, and that came up:
If this is a small sword than my butter knife is one as well, lol.
As for the topic, sounds okay to me. The argument against it seems that religious people (let's not beat around the bush, mainly female muslims) won't even bother to look for work if they can't live their religion in public, and that might very well be the case for some, but on the other hand I believe this also means a potential employee doesn't have to worry about beeing shackled to the issue as well - which inturn might lead to employees being a bit more laid-back on the issue - considering that they now can take that "privilege" away at any time if problems should arise.
If you force employees to allow religious symbols then they might simply not hire you in the first place - and it's not like they have to give the actual reason why they are not hiring you.
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As long as the ban applies to all religious headgear and symbols, fine. If it doesn't, Islamophobia. Straight up.
It is quite fascinating that you call this logic.
As I said in my original comment, if a certain outfit is necessary for the job I understand, other wise it is discrimination. Why not adding people with face tattoo or ugly people into this law? I'm sure an ugly guy or a person with a tattoo on his face would be worst for the business when it comes to a shoe store.
Also if customers are offended by black people, does it mean we have to pass a bill to prevent black people from working in white neighbourhoods?
First of all, you can in fact deny an applicant for having discernable tattoos. Secondly, ugly can't be measured objectively and lastly, denying based on skin colour would be racism.
How about you reflect, afore you reply.
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This is actually flat-out wrong, the ban is only legal if it is in the context of a broad ban on religious symbols
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Usually the most recent precedent applies, so I would guess it overwrites this ruling, though I am somewhat surprised that they hear 2 similar cases within such a short time and deliver a completely different verdict
You actually proved my point. You can deny a person who doesn't follow the dress code, it doesn't have to do with religion.
Passing a law to single out religious people is the unjust treatment of different categories of people on the ground of religion, which is by definitely discrimination.
By the way, racism is a form of discrimination.
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Interesting indeed.
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Usually rights arn't considered to be absolute, especially when they come into conflict with other rights.
In this case, the right to freedom of religion came into conflict with the right to manage your business as you choose.
In this case, the infraction on your right to practise your religion was seen as so minor that the judges ruled that the latter was more important
Yep, your freedom ends where another persons freedom begins.
Though I think you should amend your stance to ''Absolute freedom is a lie'' since relatively there is a lot of difference in individual freedom between a European country and some third world shithole like Turkey
My usual title is "The illusion of Freedom". Though consider that I am from the U.S., and Freedom is by many thought to be absolute. Even though there are similarities to the European way that there is no absolution in freedom.
For example, I have the Freedom of Speech, but I cannot make a death threat, or something of the sort.
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