The nasty woman..... Hillary or Jaina.. Take your pick..
Fact (because I say so): TBC > Cata > Legion > ShaLa > MoP > DF > BfA > WoD = WotLK
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kil jaden for sure
top-tier in evil:
- Gul'Dan
- Lich King in WotLK (I would say NerZhul is WC3 was somewhat fighting for his own survival against KJ, but Arthas LK in WotLK is just straight up e v i l )
- Deathwing was honestly just as bad as Gul'Dan unless Im forgetting something, if not worse .. he had Alex fall into the hand of orcs who forced her to mate for armies of whelps/drakes and wanted to rape both Alex & Ysera IIRC .. his actions included slaughter and experimentation on his own dragon kind
- Dreadlords, they are like a race (most of them) of Gul'Dans lol
- Old Gods - via actions certainly, but it depends on if they are fully individual sapient entities or if everything is influenced by the Void Lords "programming"
- Xavius
high-tier in evil:
- Azshara, though its more of a vain beauty type of evil, but nonetheless .. when she gets her own expansion - may graduate to top-tier
- MoP Garrosh
- KJ and Archimonde - would like to know more of their true goals/motivations before I can put them in top-tier
Sargeras - he is fucked up but he wants to fight against the Void
Void Lords - forces of cosmic nature
Gul'dan was pushed to desire for power by being crippled and weak in a strength-glorifying society, but otherwise there is nothing redeeming in him. All he's done is to gain more power. Not to protect anything, to change the world into what he considers better, or for any vague concept of greater good, but just for personal ambition, crushing anyone and anything that gets in the way.
Now you see it. Now you don't.
But was where Dalaran?
Kil'jaeden stole Velens son, killed his wife, and enslaved most of the eredar people. Velen ran ACROSS THE STARS from Kil'jaeden. KJ thought the legion to be INVINCIBLE. That is, until he found 'Us", the Heroes of azeroth. Now, he fights us, awaiting our demise, from his hands....
I'm surprised no-one has really said Sargeras here. Killed Titans, destroyed planets and enslaved races including forcing them to do his bidding on a cosmic scale because otherwise he'd snuff them out. That's not only genocide on several planets, he commits deicide (god killing if you think it's decide...) just to get his way and purge the hint of corruption/void from the universe, with wanting him to basically blow our planet up too because Azeroth to him is a threat and potential pawn to the Void Lords.
The Void Lords and Old Gods we don't know much about elsewhere as it's more localised to Azeorth like other likely candidates but Sargeras... has gone beyond that that we can confirm with creation of Legion and the Pantheon. We know that as he fell from grace with the Titans who have been known to travel the universe to bring life/order and Sargeras follows that ideal around and makes sure to undo it.
Gul'dan only dabbles in our planet under basically the underlings to... Sargeras.
About the only "evil" thing I've seen him do is kill his elder shaman. Killing Varian, however, was not evil as we are at war with his army.
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Titans it was self defense. They brought the war to him. He was destroying corrupted planets, they said stop, he said no, they brought war to him.
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Guldan was bullied his whole life, aka school shooter like was said.
Yes, he slew Titans like Aggramar when he approached Sargeras but I don't get what your point is that defers that Sargeras is pretty much worse than most? He committed deicide, you confirmed it regardless of how it happened. Even if someone approaches you for peace and reasoning, you don't go cut them in half because you disagree and that be a good reply lol.
Self defence here wouldn't be on the side of Aggramar since he wasn't really fighting for a start.
Kil'Jaeden imo
Deicide? He is a titan himself. They were not his gods. It would be fratricide at best, but nothing he did was evil. They were at war and Aggramar stupidly tried to reason with someone they were already at war with. I don't see your point at all. He is not evil by what he did. He's fairly neutral.
People like Sargeras, Deathwing and Illidan are the real evils, in my opinion.
The things they have done have made them no better than the one's they're trying to defeat. The hero who would sacrifice others for the greater good is no hero.
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He's murdered 99.99999% of the universe.... neutral?? @_@
Feel like it is my Death knight. I murdered Thousens of anything innocent. Be it low level people, civilians of Horde cities, bunnies, pirates just wanting to get by / small time bandits. I dont lots of bad stuff, I even ones desided to Kill illidan just useing fist to make a mockery of him. So me
Gul'dan, yeah he's basically at the top. Cept for when he saved baby Thrall in the movie.
Lich King Arthas, a persona created by the dreadlord forged Frostmourne, had somewhat of an honor system and legitimately rewarded and punished his minions accordingly. He also tried to spare people at times.
Deathwing let his pride and then paranoa get the better of him. It's almost as if he realized he screwed up, but couldn't go back, so he went forward.
Dreadlords suffer from being demons
Old Gods, YoggSaron is the reason all life on Azeroth exists. Praise him for he is the ironical God of Life.
Xavius is top tier
Azshara imo, is top tier aswell, she just cares about appearances to show it.
Garrosh did nothing wrong.
KJ was tricked by Archimonde. Archimonde is high-tier
Sargeras is no longer corrupted, so him killing most of the universe is pretty messed up. But it's almost as if the Void Lords knew he would do it and he fell for it.
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Deicide is an easy way to explain he killed all of the Titans not to mention genocide by going round killing planets, Draenei though escaped just shows not every planet he came across was redundant of life or in fact that life could escape. Aggramar being "stupid" in reasoning with the guy doesn't make him neutral when he killed him. Without Aggramar being able to defend himself. Dunno what world you're in when being a mass serial killer is in general is a a complete good or neutral thing.
Sargeras is called the destroyer, he didn't earn it by abstaining and not letting the Legion ravage everything in his ideal, can't see how corrupted a race to do his bidding is neutral either. I can't see how being neutral when he basically has annihilated several beings, planets and races just to push through his idea that to stop corruption is to do total destruction. Yeah totally neutral.
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