Why is America given shit over Nagasaki and Hiroshima?

[pateuvasiliu]

They bombed entire cities full of civilians. A very small % of the casualties were military personel and the rest was just civilians trying to keep their life in order. That is why they are given some shit here and there for what they did and why it is still a thing being debated.

Killing civilians in war is never okay and people are being put in court for such things. If the US had use more then just the 2 bombs to show their destructive use, then there would proberly have been quite many remarks after the war. Luckily, most people have seen the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima as the last horrors of the war and something which had to happend.

Why exactly is it ok to kill conscripts that were civilians themselves till 1 year prior but not civilians?

[Allybeboba]

Still waiting on someone to start the "Why is Germany given sh!t for the holocaust?" thread.

Will it, could it go on as long as an American thread?
Can any European country thread outlast a thread with America in the title?

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Why exactly is it ok to kill conscripts that were civilians themselves till 1 year prior but not civilians?

Because one doesn't make Americans look "less noble" in their view.

[Sky High]

Why exactly is it ok to kill conscripts that were civilians themselves till 1 year prior but not civilians?

because they're still soldiers. I mean, they're more or less disposable for their country.

[Stop Pretending]

because is funny watch muricans crying about terrorists when they did things of magnitudes worse XD

'Muricans. So much edge.

[Forogil]

The japs told the russians they would surrender completely, as long as the emporer was allowed to remain as a figurehead.

Americans rejected this and reminded allies that they agreed on unconditional surrender and popped a second bomb.

Just two errors: Japan didn't offer that, and the Soviets didn't carry the messages; they just stalled - and then later joined the attack against Japan.

If you think you have any sources for your alternative facts, check again that they are trustworthy.

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Yeah, I live an hour and a half away from trinity site. Have some tritium in a vial on a bookshelf somewhere.

Less now. I had to look it up, but the half-life is just 12 years.

[Flurryfang]

Why exactly is it ok to kill conscripts that were civilians themselves till 1 year prior but not civilians?

Constripts are battle-ready troops. They are in the position of combat, and most of the time, they are also adults fully aware of their actions and the dangers that comes with these actions. They are mostly also armed. I would have said the same if they bombed unarmed conscripts, who had not been given the chance to surrender.

Civilians are often children, young people who are not fully adults, old people who can not fight and people who pretty much have nothing to do with the war.

[Allybeboba]

Civilians are often children, young people who are not fully adults, old people who can not fight and people who pretty much have nothing to do with the war.

Something like the millions that Germany killed?

[cubby]

Something like the millions that Germany killed?

I'm not sure taking the side of the Nazi's is the best way to win an argument.

[Sky High]

I'm not sure taking the side of the Nazi's is the best way to win an argument.

it is when you're incredibly bad at debating/desperate to deflect from the point.

[bladeXcrasher]

Something like the millions that Germany killed?

I mean, you can talk about the 20 million civilian chinese the japanese killed between 1937 and 1945.

[Deleted]

Because history is written by the victors and they decide who was "good guys" and who was "bad guys" , morality have very little to do here

If you know history, it's kinda hard to portray Japan during WW2 as anywhere near Good. Just ask China, I hear Japan did a number on those defenseless towns and villages just because they were Chinese.

Japan had it comming. Karma was just painted in red, white and blue back then.

[Allybeboba]

I'm not sure taking the side of the Nazi's is the best way to win an argument.

Who took the side of Germany?
I really do not see too many people here complaining about all the innocent women and children that the Germans killed.

[Warfang]

I heard an interesting story on NPR about the Japanese museum on the bombings. Apparently days before the bombs were dropped, the US dropped hundreds of thousands of leaflets begging the civilians to leave the cities, leaving the military complex there to be wiped out but it was taken as propaganda and almost no one listened.

[cubby]

it is when you're incredibly bad at debating/desperate to deflect from the point.

Lol, good point. But he's sure fun to watch, eh? The irony is that I fall on the side of "bomb dropping ok" - I just apparently have better debating skills than a seven year-old.

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Who took the side of Germany?
I really do not see too many people here complaining about all the innocent women and children that the Germans killed.

So you don't even understand your own arguments? Well, that's sure fun. I hope you can find someone here to explain them. Read back through your post, you can do it.

[Allybeboba]

I mean, you can talk about the 20 million civilian chinese the japanese killed between 1937 and 1945.

But we can't mention the nearly six million killed by the Germans?

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Lol, good point. But he's sure fun to watch, eh? The irony is that I fall on the side of "bomb dropping ok" - I just apparently have better debating skills than a seven year-old.

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So you don't even understand your own arguments? Well, that's sure fun. I hope you can find someone here to explain them. Read back through your post, you can do it.

Oh... so what Germany did was fine in your eyes? Since you are not complaining about them and all.

[Sky High]

dude, keep going, this is gold.

[cubby]

Oh... so what Germany did was fine in your eyes? Since you are not complaining about them and all.

If you think what Germany did was fine, that's your argument, not mine. Don't drag me into your own ignorance. I didn't bring up Germany, you did.

[Allybeboba]

I heard an interesting story on NPR about the Japanese museum on the bombings. Apparently days before the bombs were dropped, the US dropped hundreds of thousands of leaflets begging the civilians to leave the cities, leaving the military complex there to be wiped out but it was taken as propaganda and almost no one listened.

It has been mentioned several times already. Anti-Americans simply don't care

[cubby]

dude, keep going, this is gold.

I'm trying - I don't think he can stop himself. Cleverness only works if you're actually clever.

[bladeXcrasher]

But we can't mention the nearly six million killed by the Germans?

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Oh... so what Germany did was fine in your eyes? Since you are not complaining about them and all.

Because the Germans are irrelevant in this argument.