[Megathread] Mass Effect Andromeda

[MrTharne]

Can't bang Natalie Dormer? I mean Dr. Lexi... damn, disappointed! :P

She'll probably bang Drack at one point or another. Lucky Krogan.

[Derah]

There are other romances one is a bi male human, one is an asari reporter and the last one is a straight female Angara. So it goes :
Straight Male : Cora, Vetra, Peebee, Asari Reporter, Female Angara. = 5
Straight Female : Liam, Jaal, Bi male Human. = 3
Gay Male : Gil, Bi male Human. = 2
Gay Female : Vetra, Peebee, Suvi, Asari Reporter. = 4


They'll probably add a Squadmate in a DLC, a gay Quarian or Drell (I want another Drell squadmate BIOWARE please). And people will scream : "WHY IN DLC BIOWARE ??????"

I have not confirmed this, but those are apparently minor romances that do not grant the achievement. They are more akin to flings and one-night stands than full-fledged romances. Think Kelly, Sha'ira, or Bella (from DA:O) than a full fledged committed relationship.

[May90]

It just goes to show that no matter what bioware does, SOMEONE somewhere is gonna get angry. Says a lot about how whiny this generation is.

Include more LGBT romances? Bioware is an SJW pandering nest of spineless sacks of shit who are too afraid of offending anyone.

Include less LGBT romances? Bioware is insulting the LGBT population, and appealing to the straight male 12 year old dudebro demographic.

You just can't win these days.

Previous Bioware games had very few LGBT options, or none at all, and nobody was raising a fuzz about it. Then come Dragon Age Inquisition which had quite a few LGBT options (well over four if I recall correctly) and all of the sudden, everyone starts shitting about it. In comes Andromeda which apparently toned down the LGBT options, and again uproar? seriously? The fuck do people want?

To be fair, people whined a lot in the past as well, just the Internet wasn't as widespread and accessible, so these people weren't as vocal. There was the whole Doom thing in 1993, where a lot of people seriously asked to completely ban the game for "extensive violence". At least now people just complain about LGBT presence or lack of presence, instead of asking the government to spank the devs!

She'll probably bang Drack at one point or another. Lucky Krogan.

We need a cutscene on this.

[Edge-]

Just because she mentioned her past and her present name, doesn't mean her reason to come to Andromeda was her being trans... I mean, is it something that even needs explaining? I would expect people criticizing Bioware writing to know something about reading, at least.

Having multiple trans friends, this is not an uncommon way for them to refer to their pre/post trans identities. It's like you're being intentionally obtuse with this for some reason.

It just goes to show that no matter what bioware does, SOMEONE somewhere is gonna get angry. Says a lot about how whiny this generation is.

Why? Things were going that way. Expectations were set that, like other franchises that made the jump from last-gen to this-gen, there would be improvement across the board. DA:I was already a step in this direction, so folks expected it to continue with ME:A.

It has nothing to do with being whiney, just disappointed that BW decided to regress in a key area that BW themselves put a lot of focus on (specifically, inclusivity).

Include more LGBT romances? Bioware is an SJW pandering nest of spineless sacks of shit who are too afraid of offending anyone.

Sure, but BW has established that they're not making games for bigots who can't handle gay people existing. They'll complain simply because a gay person exists in a game, and they're irrelevant. BW has made this clear, as have most BW fans.

Include less LGBT romances? Bioware is insulting the LGBT population, and appealing to the straight male 12 year old dudebro demographic.

Some people may take it too personally, but it's absolutely a point worthy of criticism. We have an entire industry moving towards more realistic, less stereotypical representations of minorities, and moving towards featuring them in games more often. That's great, and companies like BW are some of the ones leading that charge.

So it's incredibly disappointing to see one of the leaders on this take a step backwards, and it's entirely unexpected from most of the franchise fans. I know reading the breakdown was pretty surprising to me, I'd have expected more options for heterosexual female/homosexual male players.

Previous Bioware games had very few LGBT options, or none at all, and nobody was raising a fuzz about it. Then come Dragon Age Inquisition which had quite a few LGBT options (well over four if I recall correctly) and all of the sudden, everyone starts shitting about it. In comes Andromeda which apparently toned down the LGBT options, and again uproar? seriously? The fuck do people want?

The lack of them was an early criticism, actually. And their slow inclusion was a point of praise, with BioWare indicating that it was something they were going to fully support moving forward.

Again, yes, people will get mad at anything. But this is something that's more than justifiable to be disappointed in and even a bit upset.

[MrTharne]

We need a cutscene on this.

* As you approach the closed Infirmary door on the Tempest : "I didn't think it was possible to fit my quad in a mouth." *

Bioware pliz I need this.

[May90]

Having multiple trans friends, this is not an uncommon way for them to refer to their pre/post trans identities. It's like you're being intentionally obtuse with this for some reason.

I know, and I also have trans friends. This is grasping at straws, taking two words out of the whole dialogue and saying, "Thaaaaat's her reason!" Come on, at least, in the past people complained about "animations worse than in 90-s"... No point to invent a wheel now.

* As you approach the closed Infirmary door on the Tempest : "I didn't think it was possible to fit my quad in a mouth." *

Bioware pliz I need this.

Citadel... I mean, Nexus DLC with fan dreams come true incoming!

[Diaspar]

While you've all been bickering and pointlessly complaining over the same damn thing for the past 50 pages, I've been playing the trial and trying to get some more performance out of a G75VX (same hardware as in the previous post, i7 3630, gtx 670MX, 16Gb ddr3 ram, and a plain hybrid HDD at 7200rpm).

My new impressions for the (slightly outdated) laptop-gaming crowd are:
- all settings at low, no AA, 900p = absolutely playable! Combat and all that jazz will stay above 30fps, but during some conversations or looking over great distances there will be dips below (as bad as 25fps). To get that performance I only used msi afterburner for the GPU, no other kinds of "booster" software.
- at 768p it's even more playable! It's even possible to raise some of those low quality options up to medium (except the ones that matter ).

So, for anyone who's desperate to play this game as soon as possible, but doesn't feel like upgrading - have no fear and give it a try.

As for the game itself, here are some more impressions (but keep in mind I'm still at Eos and just met Drack):
- Peebee isn't as annoying as the advertising videos had shown
- male Ryder is kind of better than female Ryder (his movements and voice look/sound better). Actually movement animations for most female characters (except Krogan) simply look odd. Also weird accents are everywhere
- the interface takes some getting used to, the way quests and codex entries are sorted and tagged is unusual and the system isn't that intuitive. Plus when codex entries get updated (i.e. Ryder's psych profile) there is no exclamation mark next to that entry, but the codex itself will have an exclamation mark!
- same complaint for the R&D system, it's very bloated and getting to what you want isn't as fast as it should be. Also feels slightly pointless right now
- only 3 powers per profile really forces you to pick them carefully so they work well together. But even if you pick everything at random, the teammates are pretty efficient and will be useful in combat
- oh, and planet/system scanning is visually cute, but takes too long for little gain

To summarize:
- game isn't that bad, same opinion as before (50 pages of pointless bickering ago)
- I'm still going to wait a year to get it, but for people who are on the fence, go ahead and pick it up - it's really not that bad, definitely an ok game

Edit #1: for crying out loud, now you're bickering about damn romances and supposedly trans characters! Just give it a rest, the game has various romantic options and varied characters, who gives a shit what prompted Bioware to put them in - they're in, and that's that.

[MrTharne]

Some people on reddit are getting upset with the sudoku-like game that you need to solve in Remnant location because they can't solve them.

Seems like the Remnant have a good security to keep *a certain type* of people out.

[Kazgrel]

The issue isn't that they are in the game; it's how they have the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the face in how the characters are presented to you, as seen in the photo quoted earlier.

I mean hey, I don't even have to buy the game and it's bringing me entertainment, from the hilarious facial expressions (on the fem Ryder at least), animations, and making sure you're aware the game has included any and every sort of identity BW wants you to be aware of.

[Lahis]

Just because she mentioned her past and her present name, doesn't mean her reason to come to Andromeda was her being trans... I mean, is it something that even needs explaining? I would expect people criticizing Bioware writing to know something about reading, at least.

Then why the need to bring the trans part in there at all? "I was bored of my job and had no prospects of advancing" is solid reason to change the scenery without adding "oh by the way, I'm also trans."

[I Push Buttons]

Some people on reddit are getting upset with the sudoku-like game that you need to solve in Remnant location because they can't solve them.

Seems like the Remnant have a good security to keep *a certain type* of people out.

I think its because people don't read the text above the puzzle.

I didn't :P

I just saw the puzzle and was like "fill in the missing pieces!? ezpz!" And got it wrong like three times in a row... But then I read the text and it says a symbol can't repeat in a column or row.

[May90]

Some people on reddit are getting upset with the sudoku-like game that you need to solve in Remnant location because they can't solve them.

Seems like the Remnant have a good security to keep *a certain type* of people out.

Now we know the issue with the Alliance training program... They forgot to incorporate a sudoku course to learn hacking alien devices. Poor Ryder!

Sudoku still seems a better security than ME2 terminals and doors had though.

Then why the need to bring the trans part in there at all? "I was bored of my job and had no prospects of advancing" is solid reason to change the scenery without adding "oh by the way, I'm also trans."

Why not? I mean, there are people who bring up their favorite car model in the first conversation you have with them, even when you have no interest in cars whatsoever...

[MonsieuRoberts]

Sad to see that after a decade of advancement Bioware still struggles with the simple things, like my eyelashes somehow radiating through my helmet. How is this so difficult to fix?

And the Peebee backwards Carnifex? I just saw it in-game, it's real! Boy oh boy, I can't wait for the first patch to fix these issues. Was QA asleep at the wheel?

[Lahis]

I think its because people don't read the text above the puzzle.

I didn't :P

I just saw the puzzle and was like "fill in the missing pieces!? ezpz!" And got it wrong like three times in a row... But then I read the text and it says a symbol can't repeat in a column or row.

They could have added a voiceline to Ryder after first failure to avoid that.

"Oh now I get it, this is like a Sudoku puzzle!"

[Cosmic Janitor]

Hmm, didn't someone say there was no lock on the main quest? Because it's 45 Minutes before the end of the trial and there is this door that they won't let me open :P.

Ah well, I guess I will end it here and do our shitty heroic raid tomorrow until they will finally let me play the game that I already played and payed for again .

[NoiseTank13]

well I lost three exp boost packs, not to shitty hosts, but the game just randomly crashing

god im mad right now. the same mistakes they made with ME3 MP they are making with MEA MP. fucking consumables, p2p, and unstable clients

[Cosmic Janitor]

Now we know the issue with the Alliance training program... They forgot to incorporate a sudoku course to learn hacking alien devices. Poor Ryder!

Sudoku still seems a better security than ME2 terminals and doors had though.

The hilarious part is more that they actually bothered to create a cheat item to skip these and make them (by the looks of it) scarce.. it's a 4 by 4 grid with 4 glyps. Do they jack that up later?

[May90]

The hilarious part is more that they actually bothered to create a cheat item to skip these and make them (by the looks of it) scarce.. it's a 4 by 4 grid with 4 glyps. Do they jack that up later?

In ME2, there was an upgrade you could buy that would give you twice the regular time to hack the terminals. Even though the regular time was more than abundant...

These security systems have always cracked me up. Opening an ancient door in an ancient Sith tomb in KotoR by playing the Tower of Hanoi deserves its own meme, or a few!

[zealo]

The hilarious part is more that they actually bothered to create a cheat item to skip these and make them (by the looks of it) scarce.. it's a 4 by 4 grid with 4 glyps. Do they jack that up later?

I've seen grids with 5 by 5 grids with 5 glyphs on the first planet after Eos so far. It wouldn't surprise me if it gets upgraded to 6 by 6 at some point. Still, it's not very hard at all.

[Derah]

These security systems have always cracked me up. Opening an ancient door in an ancient Sith tomb in KotoR by playing the Tower of Hanoi deserves its own meme, or a few!

Bioware poked fun at this themselves.

In the Citadel DLC, when you go to the Silversun Strip casino, there's an arcade with different games you can play. One of them is Towers of Hanoi. When shepard approaches that particular arcade, if you press the use key, Shepard will say: "Towers of Hanoi....... I don't think so......" and walks away.

Hilarious. That entire DLC is made of win. As angry as I was with Bioware for the shitty ME3 ending, after that DLC (And extended cut), all was forgiven.