BREAKING: Attack on British Parliament

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well luckily London has a wonderful immigration policy so more of these attacks can happen. In fact it will just be a way of life according to the mayor. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/money/...ies/vp-BBwApA5
maybe if you are a jihadist they are, but not in any civilized society.

Cool taking an article out of context, are you Donald trump's son?
Terrorists do target large cities and crowded areas for obvious reasons. It isn't hard to understand what the mayor truly means is it? I guess it is.

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At this particular moment in time, authorities are still working tirelessly to figure out what Mohammed Abdul Hakim Sadiq's motive was for this attack.

Wages. The British parliament has been stingy n not given him n his terrorist buddies a pay rise for some time. And, well, what other way do terrorists get peoples attention for their issues

[Ravenblade]

It was a Muslim attacker, as usual. All the liberals were trying to say "we don't know who did it" but witnesses say otherwise. Maybe after a dozen more attacks, or when someone you care about is the victim you and other liberals will open your eyes and see the truth. Are all Muslims terrorists? No. Are most terrorists Muslim? YUP. Should they be profiled because of it? YUP. Those that aren't terrorists have nothing to fear.

You know that in order to become a Muslim all you need to do is speaking the prayer formula and in order to get taught the basics you can just look up any online resource. One of the Rigby murderers was a former Christian who turned Muslim while in the UK. Even if you could profile every single one of them there are two kinds of terrorists with the latter becoming much more popular: a) the kind which gets trained and prepared and risks getting detected the longer his time of preparation, b) the kind that impromptu decides for himself to commit some attack disguised as criminal act and commit suicide by cop in order to still count as having martyred. Suffice to say both types attack run contrary to the teachings of mainstream Islam but it's the radical versions which suggests it's a-ok to hunt down infidels even if they are unarmed and innocent otherwise because being an infidel negates all innocence to them.

So how would you fight the latter? Unless we have real-time brainwave scanners with armed drones circling over everyone of them it is nigh impossible. That's why I say that the more populist movements clearly have their scapegoats and guilty people identified, however they have not identified their solutions. And that's not down to "liberalz" being "dumb as a barn door" but because there is no single and simple catch-all solution to this. The effective solutions target different areas at once and still there would be a chance left even if you have life-tired people running amok which was something that plagued Western societies for a while too and people went all "but we must ban videogames, must profile juveniles, make tougher laws, tougher punishments, tougher anything!". What helped? Well, I can't speak for all but in case of the more famous one in my state a single change of an education-related law helped.

I also must say there is some cynism in that people only care about skin colour, nationality and religion of the attackers these days but never of those of the victims. In fact: nobody cares for victims in the long run. The attackers will always be out-remembered.

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So, the Parliament that has been supporting "rebels" n "freedom fighters" for god knows how long get a taste of their own medicine? That's Karma.

My message is this: STOP SUPPORTING TERRORISTS, but since no parliamentarians died but innocent bystanders, I doubt anything will change.

And if he's not from one of these "freed" & "rebellious" regions our governments have been supporting? What then?
That argument won't float if he's Algerian/Moroccan/Pakistani/etc.

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We can only hope that our politicians wake up at some point. Luckily it seems like they are starting to.

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And if he's not from one of these "freed" & "rebellious" regions our governments have been supporting? What then?
That argument won't float if he's Algerian/Moroccan/Pakistani/etc.

Oh, that makes their terrorism funding alright then...

[Deleted]

Cool taking an article out of context, are you Donald trump's son?
Terrorists do target large cities and crowded areas for obvious reasons. It isn't hard to understand what the mayor truly means is it? I guess it is.

Thats why Tokyo, Seoul and other big cities doesnt have these types of attacks? Maybe because they havent invited garbage cultures, have you thought about that?

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And that's not down to "liberalz" being "dumb as a barn door" but because there is no single and simple catch-all solution to this. .

Ever thought about NOT inviting those people until their own countries looks like ours? How naive can you be?

[Tinch]

Ever thought about NOT inviting those people until their own countries looks like ours? How naive can you be?

So whats your solution if they're home born terrorists?

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Thats why Tokyo, Seoul and other big cities doesnt have these types of attacks? Maybe because they havent invited garbage cultures, have you thought about that?

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Ever thought about NOT inviting those people until their own countries looks like ours? How naive can you be?

That doesn't mean they don't have to be alert and aware of it. Large cities and crowded areas will always be a primary target, get your head out of your arse. Even James Holmes who was white and not having anything related to a garbage culture or religion choose the area he did with a reason. More victims.

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Would like to remind people that today is the 1 year anniversary since the Brussel attacks. coincidence? probably not.

Also Theresa May was supposed to meet Jaroslaw Kaczynski about Polish-British co-operation and Brexit.

[Independent voter]

Looks like police have arrested 7 people so far who are connected to the attack.

https://www.apnews.com/85f352503e194...ck;-7-arrested

[Ravenblade]

Ever thought about NOT inviting those people until their own countries looks like ours? How naive can you be?

Yes, how naive would it be to believe that this would be the solution. What if they were born here, were even of different faith or ideology before, then converted and radicalized themselves? You are reducing terrorists to immigrants coming from regions that adhere to a certain type of faith which would work if religion and ethnicity would be indivisible and there is a natural precondition to commit such acts.
Have you ever wondered why people whose parents say came from Nigeria, integrated well into society and established a social position never got around doing terrorist attacks whilst some people living in ghettos, being unemployed, loyal to the hateful preacher around the corner or that guy on the internet posting his videos, barely speaking the language ended up doing that?

What about that Christian convert who started buying into Islamist pamphlets and who ended up as ISIS fighter in the Middle East and who came back with grand plans but would not be detected as terrorist because he passed as native citizen? There are many ways to get down the path, locking out one group would probably not have that effect you were hoping for. You need to think outside the "immigrant == terrorists" box and see that anyone can become a terrorist at any point time given the motives and circumstances.

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Yes, how naive would it be to believe that this would be the solution. What if they were born here, were even of different faith or ideology before, then converted and radicalized themselves?

U ignored his point that it doesn't happen in Seoul tokyo (n strangely not eastern europe either which refused immigrants).
U lost the argument, get the fuck out of ur bubble!

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What's funny is that, what, 4 people were killed in this terrorist attack that the entire world will report on. Same day, 4 people are shot dead in Minnesta due to a "family argument". And people will see this terrorist attack as another sign of the coming of the end of the Western world. Whereas 4 people shot dead in the US simply cause anyone and everyone can get their hands on a gun is just the price to pay for "freedom".

[Trassk]

What's funny is that, what, 4 people were killed in this terrorist attack that the entire world will report on. Same day, 4 people are shot dead in Minnesta due to a "family argument". And people will see this terrorist attack as another sign of the coming of the end of the Western world. Whereas 4 people shot dead in the US simply cause anyone and everyone can get their hands on a gun is just the price to pay for "freedom".

That's just par for the course, America is a country where people get shot and killed every day, since it's a country that gives out guns like cigarettes. It's always more surprising when someone gets shot and killed in the UK since a gun holder here had to go through illegal channels to get one.

[Deleted]

What's funny is that, what, 4 people were killed in this terrorist attack that the entire world will report on. Same day, 4 people are shot dead in Minnesta due to a "family argument". And people will see this terrorist attack as another sign of the coming of the end of the Western world. Whereas 4 people shot dead in the US simply cause anyone and everyone can get their hands on a gun is just the price to pay for "freedom".

It's cute that u think u haf a point.

[ranzino]

That's just par for the course, America is a country where people get shot and killed every day, since it's a country that gives out guns like cigarettes. It's always more surprising when someone gets shot and killed in the UK since a gun holder here had to go through illegal channels to get one.

But in the current case no gun was needed. Just a Hyundai and a knife.

[Deleted]

Attacker was British-born, known to security services.

Same old.

I'd be suprised if this guy wasn't on a watch list.

The crudeness of the attack suggests that ISIS network in the UK is limited. Our security services are overstreched so you can't watch everyone all the time, but mistakes are often made as well. Hell even the jihadis think our security is decent.

We don't face the same problems as the continent. For instance we have strict gun control laws and there isn't a significant illegal market. Whereas the continent is less safe because its easier to get a gun. There is a massive market for illegal guns in Belgium for instance. Thats why this guy used a knife, most of the attacks in the west have involved attackers using weapons that are easy to obtain relatively to them and the location tends to be within hours of where they live.

Most of these 'lone wolves' actually have networks, hence the arrests.

The problem is that there a world of data you can analyse but the must important is still human interaction with security services. Attacks intend to signal what they are going to do to relatives/friends before they do it. Most attacks are stopped when someone dobs them in. Thats the silver bullet not mass surveillance. The security services only track people who are an imminent threat but jihadis are unpredictable so its hard to know who to look at.

[Blobfish]

Looks like police have arrested 7 people so far who are connected to the attack.

https://www.apnews.com/85f352503e194...ck;-7-arrested

Yep the Scotland Yard Cops know who it is that went on the rampage.

But they are keeping his name away from the media so that they can bust down the doors of his associates and family.

They do not want to tip them off.

Great Idea I reckon.

[ranzino]

Yep the Scotland Yard Cops know who it is that went on the rampage.

But they are keeping his name away from the media so that they can bust down the doors of his associates and family.

They do not want to tip them off.

Great Idea I reckon.

Hmmm, fair guess his associates knew the SY would come for them afterwards ?