Looks like the Anti-Abuse system is getting an overhaul.

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That's how matchmaking works. Terrible players won't rank up, and will get stuck in bronze or low silver. If you're playing in Gold or better, the chances of seeing someone playing like that is minimal. The ranking system handles matching people with worse players, we don't need a reporting feature on top of that, the reporting is for people deliberately throwing matches or abusing people. Not someone just playing badly.

I'm not playing ranked as I'm not level 25 yet.

[Zoibert the Bear]

http://kotaku.com/overwatchs-anti-ab...aul-1793545279

Its not a lot, but hey, anything to help control and get rid of the toxicity.

Still, I disagree with them when they say "playing a hero that is not considered optimal"
is not considered "Poor Teamwork."

It absolutely is. I know many people, myself included, have lost matches due to some
asshole stubbornly playing a character and refusing to switch, especially when they are
not only getting countered left and right by the enemy team, but they also are performing
horribly (ex. a dps and getting not a single kill)

Lol git gud so you don't get matched with plebs. Once you get out of bronze, it starts getting mildly better, 3000 and up is where you may find your occasional griefer, but people tend to be generally capable.

[Endus]

I'm not playing ranked as I'm not level 25 yet.

Quickplay has an MMR system, too, it's just not as strict or as obvious as Competitive.

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Quickplay has an MMR system, too, it's just not as strict or as obvious as Competitive.

MMR system? I'm ending up with/against people playing in master while at the same having bronze people on the teams... Doesn't really seem to be a particularly good mmr system with the spread of the rank players has that I've checked after they play exceptionally bad or good...

Like earlier I ended up against and with this guy for some games: https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/care...aymyname-21424 and he's master. Then we had some bronze players in that same game and some of us who weren't even lvl 25 yet...

[epLe]

Placements puts new players at inflated ratings, causing the "ELO Hell" to range from silver to platinum.
You're never safe from trolls, griefers or those who intentionally toss the game aslong as you don't queue with a premade.

IF this cause blizzard to actually ban more often, and try to handle these griefers better it is very promising.

Last night I had this Mei, stood in spawn whole game, spamming "escort the payload" constantly.
And just shooting out the door. Most likely some automation program to click "F" and right-click mouse.
I inspected his profile, and saw quickly he had less than 2 kills avg a game.
At level 150~ and still "playing" the game just to ruin it for others.
Blizzard really needs to get rid of such players.

[ThatsOurEric]

This isn't reportable. At all. Bad gameplay is not a reportable offense. It's why they should have a low ranking, and you playing better should mean you rank more highly, and stop getting matched with people like that. That's it.

Except for those who are of course, "stuck" in that area. I'm platinum but I'm still paired against Gold players, and not strictly
Platinum. So it doesn't work that way at all.

And you're not reading what I'm saying. "Bad gameplay" is not what I'm saying. A person's refusal to swap characters due to
their poor performance is a form of "poor teamwork." Because now they are deliberately throwing the game by being a
deadweight to the team.

If you're playing in Gold or better, the chances of seeing someone playing like that is minimal.

Its not nearly as rare as you think it is.

Lol git gud so you don't get matched with plebs. Once you get out of bronze, it starts getting mildly better, 3000 and up is where you may find your occasional griefer, but people tend to be generally capable.

For the record, "git gud" is one of the most condescending and mentally retarded statements anyone can use as a form of argument.
Don't use that crap on me thanks.

That being said, getting to 3k is not feasible without being in a premade.

[Orangetai420]

http://kotaku.com/overwatchs-anti-ab...aul-1793545279

Its not a lot, but hey, anything to help control and get rid of the toxicity.

Still, I disagree with them when they say "playing a hero that is not considered optimal"
is not considered "Poor Teamwork."

It absolutely is. I know many people, myself included, have lost matches due to some
asshole stubbornly playing a character and refusing to switch, especially when they are
not only getting countered left and right by the enemy team, but they also are performing
horribly (ex. a dps and getting not a single kill)

The day I can get banned for picking the hero I want to play is the day I uninstall the game.
If you want to play meta you should be in a premade, it really is that simple.

[Endus]

Except for those who are of course, "stuck" in that area. I'm platinum but I'm still paired against Gold players, and not strictly
Platinum. So it doesn't work that way at all.

If you're getting paired with Gold players, you're A> in low Platinum, and B> they're high Gold. So not a lot of difference.

Edit: And this is assuming that by "platinum", you mean you're currently ranked above 2500, rather than just having the platinum tag, which shows the highest you've reached. If you hit 2502 and then fell back to 2300, you'll have the Platinum tag, but you'll be (appropriately) matched with Gold players, because you're ranked Gold.

And you're not reading what I'm saying. "Bad gameplay" is not what I'm saying. A person's refusal to swap characters due to
their poor performance is a form of "poor teamwork." Because now they are deliberately throwing the game by being a
deadweight to the team.

I get what you're saying. It's just wrong. This isn't something that should be reportable, and it is not "deliberately throwing the game".

[Orangetai420]

So people picking mercy or lucio and not healing, just doing damage isn't reportable according to you?

If that was the case DSPstanky would have a season long ban. Its an exaggeration of course, as he does heal but mostly goes for boops and uses speed.

[ThatsOurEric]

The day I can get banned for picking the hero I want to play is the day I uninstall the game.
If you want to play meta you should be in a premade, it really is that simple.

Well I want to play Torbjorn all the time, but I know that there are maps and characters that counter him
very badly, so it would not be wise for me to keep playing a character that won't help me or my team
win now will it? Even though I want to play him.

The problem isn't people playing what they want to play. The problem is people stubbornly playing
only what they want to play, and even when it is not working, they refuse to swap characters,
which is a part of the gameplay of Overwatch : countering other characters when your character
is being countered. When they don't swap characters is when they become a detriment/handicap/
deadweight/holding back/etc. to the team, causing not only themselves to lose, but their team to lose.

So if you happen to be one of those players who plays comp and says "fuck you I'll play who I want, when I
want, and fuck all of you for thinking/saying otherwise", well, maybe you should uninstall. IF you're that type
of person that is.

I get what you're saying. It's just wrong. This isn't something that should be reportable, and it is not "deliberately throwing the game".

No it isn't, I can't fathom hwo you wouldn't think it is, as well as how you think it isn't
a deliberate throwing of the game.

Selfishness has no place in a team game. It doesn't. The moment you think it does,
you have no place playing it in the first place.

[Orangetai420]

It's the healers not actually healing when this happens. I've been gold healing with 1500 healing as roadhog, I've been gold healing on soldier with 800, I've been gold healing at 400 with reaper... The healers must be AFK to not surpass this or are actively avoiding healing and just doing damage.

Or they joined late, switched to a healer mid match, or you are too busy feeding ults to bother with the flankers in the backline.

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Or they joined late, switched to a healer mid match, or you are too busy feeding ults to bother with the flankers in the backline.

No, they have been in the game since the start and been healers.

[Orangetai420]

Well I want to play Torbjorn all the time, but I know that there are maps and characters that counter him
very badly, so it would not be wise for me to keep playing a character that won't help me or my team
win now will it? Even though I want to play him.

The problem isn't people playing what they want to play. The problem is people stubbornly playing
only what they want to play, and even when it is not working, they refuse to swap characters,
which is a part of the gameplay of Overwatch : countering other characters when your character
is being countered. When they don't swap characters is when they become a detriment/handicap/
deadweight/holding back/etc. to the team, causing not only themselves to lose, but their team to lose.

So if you happen to be one of those players who plays comp and says "fuck you I'll play who I want, when I
want, and fuck all of you for thinking/saying otherwise", well, maybe you should uninstall. IF you're that type
of person that is.

I main support so you can toss that notion out the window. The point being is that you don't get to decide what others should play.

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No, they have been in the game since the start and been healers.

You must be in bronze then or are grossly exaggerating how often this happens.

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You must be in bronze then or are grossly exaggerating how often this happens.

i'm not able to play ranked.

[Endus]

No it isn't, I can't fathom hwo you wouldn't think it is, as well as how you think it isn't
a deliberate throwing of the game.

Because it isn't. It's someone not playing how you want them to play. You aren't the referee, nor are you the team coach. You don't get to demand other people play "your way". Nor is a playing performing poorly a demonstration that they're throwing the match; they may just be having a bad day, or something.

If it's consistent, they'll lose rank, and you won't, and you'll never see them again. If they stay at the same rank as you, then you're not performing any better, and really don't have any room to complain. This is a "problem" that's solved with the ranking system; we don't need reports to add to that.

[Orangetai420]

i'm not able to play ranked.

Quick play is irrelevant.

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Because it isn't. It's someone not playing how you want them to play. You aren't the referee, nor are you the team coach. You don't get to demand other people play "your way". Nor is a playing performing poorly a demonstration that they're throwing the match; they may just be having a bad day, or something.

If it's consistent, they'll lose rank, and you won't, and you'll never see them again. If they stay at the same rank as you, then you're not performing any better, and really don't have any room to complain. This is a "problem" that's solved with the ranking system; we don't need reports to add to that.

Honestly this should be a sticky, well said.

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Quick play is irrelevant.

Why would it be irrelevant when I have to play it?

[Orangetai420]

Why would it be irrelevant when I have to play it?

Because thats where we go to practice, there is nothing at stake. You only "have" to play it until 25 and if you really wanted you could just set up skrims in custom games and level up that way.

[Novakhoro]

That's how matchmaking works. Terrible players won't rank up, and will get stuck in bronze or low silver. If you're playing in Gold or better, the chances of seeing someone playing like that is minimal.

I agree with everything but this ^ High diamond/low masters and people OTP heroes that get hard countered and refuse to switch. I think that sort of selfish mentality transpires through all the ranks. But your point on the MM being solid holds to me. Their are unlucky streaks and such but your SR will reflect your ability given enough data.

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Because thats where we go to practice, there is nothing at stake. You only "have" to play it until 25 and if you really wanted you could just set up skrims in custom games and level up that way.

So that means people should be able to ruin other peoples experience by griefing because it's "nothing at stake"?