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    Sad thing. In his first term, Putin seemed to be a progressive and at the same time pragmatic person. But since the Medvediev ruse and Putin's return to power, things went downhill. Guess, Russians rather have a devil they know than return to the unknown regions the have been dreaming about at the times of Perestroika.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    What facts of the case support your version exactly?
    Putin=evil. What else do you need?

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    Assassination video



    Seems like a killer said something to his victim before firing a shot. Probably standard ukrozighail.

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    Conspiracy theory. This forum does not tolerate conspiracy theories. Oh right, its about evil Putin, so modders would never care. But if you dare call CNN fake news, you will be infracted.

    You know this is precisely the attitude that brought about leftist's failure. And thea article cites the words of Poroshenko, who lied on multiple occasions, who still does not implement Minsk agreements and prefers a civil war in his country, so long as those IMF money keep pouring into his Somalia of a country. Btw, it's not "handwriting of Russian agencies." Isn't it supposed to be pollonium?? What is "handwriting of an agency" anyway??? Can you fake it, like you can fake hacks to seem to be from another country(with a very very evil man for a president), while in fact it was our own government?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emperor View Post
    Conspiracy theory. This forum does not tolerate conspiracy theories. Oh right, its about evil Putin, so modders would never care. But if you dare call CNN fake news, you will be infracted.
    ....

    You mean like the conspiracy theory about Obama wiretapping Trump... oh wait, that was something announced by a state official too and didn't get closed, just like that one in the OP.

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    As for the topic, I'm not sure what to make of it. I think it's possible and maybe even probable that it was a murder ordered by the Russian government. But from what I read about it, the victim may have made some more enemies than only the Russian government. So... I'm not completely sure. Problem is, we will probably never find out the truth about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shandalay View Post
    You mean like the conspiracy theory about Obama wiretapping Trump... oh wait, that was something announced by a state official too and didn't get closed, just like that one in the OP.

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    As for the topic, I'm not sure what to make of it. I think it's possible and maybe even probable that it was a murder ordered by the Russian government. But from what I read about it, the victim may have made some more enemies than only the Russian government. So... I'm not completely sure. Problem is, we will probably never find out the truth about it.
    Guess what, even Ukraine's own news agencies are debunking this "Russian assassin" story as we speak, apparently, he was member of Ukranian National Guard(which is on par with security agency)
    http://korrespondent.net/ukraine/383...yl-voronenkova only in Russian for now, but you can expect at least /some/ decent western articles mentioning it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeponrage View Post
    Assassination video



    Seems like a killer said something to his victim before firing a shot. Probably standard ukrozighail.
    Eh...who was that other guy with the victim? Why did he have a gun?
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    i was talking about horse cock again, told him to look at your sig.

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    Russia is a dictatorship, these things happens then.
    But soon after Mr Xi secured a third term, Apple released a new version of the feature in China, limiting its scope. Now Chinese users of iPhones and other Apple devices are restricted to a 10-minute window when receiving files from people who are not listed as a contact. After 10 minutes, users can only receive files from contacts.
    Apple did not explain why the update was first introduced in China, but over the years, the tech giant has been criticised for appeasing Beijing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    Eh...who was that other guy with the victim? Why did he have a gun?
    a guard, got a bullet in his stomach, but managed to shoot a killer. He is alive, afaik. Killer was mortally wounded and died in hospital. Well, at least, as Ukranian sources claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emperor View Post
    Conspiracy theory. This forum does not tolerate conspiracy theories. Oh right, its about evil Putin, so modders would never care. But if you dare call CNN fake news, you will be infracted.

    You know this is precisely the attitude that brought about leftist's failure. And thea article cites the words of Poroshenko, who lied on multiple occasions, who still does not implement Minsk agreements and prefers a civil war in his country, so long as those IMF money keep pouring into his Somalia of a country. Btw, it's not "handwriting of Russian agencies." Isn't it supposed to be pollonium?? What is "handwriting of an agency" anyway??? Can you fake it, like you can fake hacks to seem to be from another country(with a very very evil man for a president), while in fact it was our own government?
    Stop pretending that you're American.
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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    Stop pretending that you're American.
    What ran out of coherent arguments so soon?? Edit: oh what am I on about, u never had any

    Also in the news right now, aside from killer being totally unprofessional(red sneakers wtf, also didn't finish off bodyguard, hence died from injuries.) Is a veteran of war in eastern Ukraine. Guess whose side he was fighting for? No, wrong, he fought against the so called PRO Russian separatists and judging from tattoos on his body was a nazi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    Eh...who was that other guy with the victim? Why did he have a gun?
    That was Voronenkov's bodyguard (who survived so far).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quetzl View Post
    Just another example of Putin's style of governance, in which dissenters are imprisoned or killed. Why are some people so enamored by this man? As soon as he's no longer on your side, your life is in danger.
    Who is enamored? You been watching too much CNN to think that anyone in America is enamored with the Russian President. Or you are getting trolled.

    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    And the U.S. President is utterly beholden to him. Fan-fucking-tastic.
    No he isn't. He just doesn't want to start a war with Russia because "The Russians are bad!"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emperor View Post
    What ran out of coherent arguments so soon?? Edit: oh what am I on about, u never had any
    I'm just letting you know that you're not fooling anyone. I learned that arguing with you is unproductive when you tried to pass off a video from an Assad apologist's YouTube channel as a source for your argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyc View Post
    No he isn't. He just doesn't want to start a war with Russia because "The Russians are bad!"...
    All evidence pointing to the contrary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    All evidence pointing to the contrary.
    No it isn't... Take your bias out of it and try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyc View Post
    No it isn't... Take your bias out of it and try again.
    First, you need to look up the word bias - because you're using it incorrectly, and that makes it seem like you don't understand the word itself.

    Second, what evidence are you seeing that is point in any other direction than a Russian puppet president? Dazzle me with your links and sources, please.

    Finally, you're going to be eating your own shorts when U.S. citizens linked to this travesty start dropping like flies because of the Putin engagement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    All evidence pointing to the contrary.
    You mean Russians aren't actually bad? :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    First, you need to look up the word bias - because you're using it incorrectly, and that makes it seem like you don't understand the word itself.

    Second, what evidence are you seeing that is point in any other direction than a Russian puppet president? Dazzle me with your links and sources, please.

    Finally, you're going to be eating your own shorts when U.S. citizens linked to this travesty start dropping like flies because of the Putin engagement.
    - You got me, I don't know words. I actually used it perfectly. Nice try though.

    -- I'd love to see your evidence that you said was so obvious earlier. Because if it were real Trump would have been impeached long ago.

    --- I doubt that, but I can't stop you from thinking that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyc View Post
    - You got me, I don't know words. I actually used it perfectly. Nice try though.

    -- I'd love to see your evidence that you said was so obvious earlier. Because if it were real Trump would have been impeached long ago.

    --- I doubt that, but I can't stop you from thinking that way.
    So no evidence to back your claim? Gotcha. Just wanted to double check you're the blowhard hypocrite we know you to be. If you have something, post it. If you need evidence of my claims, read a newspaper.

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