Senate passes bill about ISPs sharing consumers' web-browsi and other things

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normally this would be bad but everybody watches xxx stuff this days and its not a secret anymoere

[S7orm]

Looks like the golden age of VPN providers started today in the US. Now it'll be even harded to actually track down malicious users from the overall increase of VPN traffic

[I Push Buttons]

This doesn't really have anything to do with Trump.

We have another President who is going to sign this into law?

[StayTuned]

I don't like the idea of my ISP making even more money through the sales of my data. I already pay my ISP a lot and there's a reason I allow Facebook and Co. to do their ad magic - because their services are free.

I cannot stop to think that most of these asinine bills in the US (which will probably somehow affect for example the EU directly, or through trendsetting) are a pure offspring of lobbying. Someone is getting paid a lot to pass bills such as these.

[Gemini Soul]

Well I mean it does say right there that it requires explicit consent, by which it means they have to directly ask you and get permission. And no, asking through a ToS agreement doesn't count; those things never hold up in court. Ever.

They will force it down our throats, by offering a deal or discount if you give consent.

[Allybeboba]

I don't like the idea of my ISP making even more money through the sales of my data. I already pay my ISP a lot and there's a reason I allow Facebook and Co. to do their ad magic - because their services are free.

I cannot stop to think that most of these asinine bills in the US (which will probably somehow affect for example the EU directly, or through trendsetting) are a pure offspring of lobbying. Someone is getting paid a lot to pass bills such as these.

Facebook is not technically "free". You "sold" them your information in exchange for their services. And they in turn sell it for a profit.

[StayTuned]

Facebook is not technically "free". You "sold" them your information. And they in turn sell it.

For all intents and purposes I regard to it as free. But of course, you are right, I pay with my information.

[Allybeboba]

So everything google and Facebook do now? I agree it's the wrong direction, but until they rule that metadata should be treated like healthcare info, we are fucked. Someone with money should buy the data for all the yes voters, I bet you could find some kinky shit

Lots of people don't realize this. Cable companies and banks too. It is a lot larger issue than people realize already.

[Al Gorefiend]

Nobody with a Tor browser and VPN on their computer has honest intentions.

[Al Gorefiend]

Which is what the government also assumes. Anyone who uses them is just putting a target on their back. Kinda ironic.

"B-b-but the government is spying on me! I need to be private!"

Bullshit. If you're using Tor you're on it for the black Market or for child porn. There's literally nothing else it offers over other browsers.

[StayTuned]

"B-b-but the government is spying on me! I need to be private!"

Bullshit. If you're using Tor you're on it for the black Market or for child porn. There's literally nothing else it offers over other browsers.

Go say that to that scientists and other people who work on highly classified materials/ corporate secrets and journalists in Turkey, Egypt, North Korea....

Insiders, whistleblowers... oh boy

[KrazyK923]

implying only Republicans do this lmao

Except in this case it was only them.

But feel free to continue to deflect.

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Also really patriotic seeing most self-professed conservatives in this thread being ok with this because its their despot whose party pushed it.

I'm with Ethan from h3h3. Let's start a fund and buy the histories of all the people who vote for this and blast it across the internet.

[endersblade]

Amazon, HBO, Hulu, and Netflix. Still like 1/4 the cost with no ads. (HBO does do HBO only ads for other shows on HBO, for the first 30~ seconds of episodes/movies)

Wait, you pay for HBO, and they STILL run 30 fucking seconds of ads? Glad I don't sub to that. That's fucking retarded. I don't care if they ARE for HBO shows. That's what browsing is for, finding shit you want to watch. Not paying to watch fucking commercials.

I'm going to laugh my ass off when this ends up biting these people in the ass. All the ones who support this, I bet bottom dollar that they will be the first one to have their info sold.

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I'm with Ethan from h3h3. Let's start a fund and buy the histories of all the people who vote for this and blast it across the internet.

I'm sure Anon is already on it lol

[Swag]

Not that I'm a fan of this mind you, but right now ISPs are pretty much the only ones NOT making money on your data. I mean... we're all (most) using google or something to search the web and targeting you with ads based on your search history and / or selling is IS their business model. People just accept it. I'm not sure that this feels very different that that.

[God Save The King]

Wait, you pay for HBO, and they STILL run 30 fucking seconds of ads? Glad I don't sub to that. That's fucking retarded. I don't care if they ARE for HBO shows. That's what browsing is for, finding shit you want to watch. Not paying to watch fucking commercials.

I actually don't mind them. They're ads for their shows, like Young Pope, True Detective, Westworld, Game of Thrones, etc.

It only happens maybe once every 4th or 5th episode, so roughly 4 hours of uninterrupted viewing; plus it shows me some of their other shows I may want to see. It's what caused me to watch those four aforementioned shows

[Al Gorefiend]

Go say that to that scientists and other people who work on highly classified materials/ corporate secrets and journalists in Turkey, Egypt, North Korea....

Insiders, whistleblowers... oh boy

Silly me for not including that 0.001% of Tor users who are top secret scientist and spies.

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Not that I'm a fan of this mind you, but right now ISPs are pretty much the only ones NOT making money on your data. I mean... we're all (most) using google or something to search the web and targeting you with ads based on your search history and / or selling is IS their business model. People just accept it. I'm not sure that this feels very different that that.

People have the mindset that the Internet is a Right.

Not saying it shouldn't be, but it isn't

[StayTuned]

Silly me for not including that 0.001% of Tor users who are top secret scientist and spies.

Well you did say ALL, so don't be like that now.

[d00mGuArD]

Getting Tails O/S is a good start for those that don't know what to do about this issue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tails_(operating_system)

[Damajin]

The funny thing about trying to hide yourself on the internet though is that it makes you seem more suspicious. The more you try to hide your online presence, the more likely the NSA and other agencies will be keeping a closer eye on you. Especially with Tor. I guarantee you if you're using Tor, you're almost certainly being looked at. Of course, they really don't give a shit what you're doing as long as it isn't a risk to national security.

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I actually agree with you for once.

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Yeah, except you're literally advertising for them to watch you more if you're using Tor. I'm surprised people aren't more aware of this.

I can't control what they decide to do, only what they're able to see. That's a perfectly viable and reasonable choice to make.

I don't give a shit if they give a shit what I'm doing or reading, it's not their place and the entire surveillance state is far past acceptable in America.

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"B-b-but the government is spying on me! I need to be private!"

Bullshit. If you're using Tor you're on it for the black Market or for child porn. There's literally nothing else it offers over other browsers.

Hahaha, this is so naive.

[sonololo]

since I have nothing to hide. And there's literally no reason to give a shit if you have nothing to hide.

Okay, give me your online medical records and online banking account access.

Why? You've said you have nothing to hide, so let me look into them.