Imam calling for Jews to be killed in sermon at Montreal mosque

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Imam is giving a talk at a Mosque in Montreal and calls for the killing of Jews. Should this behavior be illegal?

If he traveled a bit South and gave the same talk in the US, it's legal. Some of the crazy stuff the Reverend Farrakhan says comes to mind and it's much worse.

I don't think words should get you thrown in jail, not in that setting. Yes I'm aware yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is bad, but this was an academic talk.





http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...sque-1.4037397



A Montreal mosque is facing a police complaint and rebukes from the larger Muslim community after a video of an imam delivering a sermon in which he asks for Jews to be killed surfaced online.

The sermon took place at the Dar Al-Arqam Mosque in the city's Saint-Michel neighbourhood on Dec. 23, 2016.

The video was posted to the mosque's YouTube channel three days later. The imam in the video is Jordanian cleric Sheikh Muhammad bin Musa Al Nasr — he was reportedly an invited guest of the mosque.

In the video, the imam recites in Arabic the verse: "O Muslim, O servant of Allah, O Muslim, O servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him."

CBC independently verified the speech and its translation.

The controversial verse comes from a religious text known as a hadith, which interprets the words and actions by the Prophet Muhammad.

The hadith in question deals with end times and tells how stones and trees will ask Muslims to come and kill Jews hiding behind them.

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CBC Montreal has reached out to the Dar Al-Arqam mosque for comment and was told no one was available.

Accused of inciting violence

The video was brought to the attention of B'nai Brith Canada, which filed a complaint with Montreal police on Monday.

The organization said it is totally unacceptable that a mosque would allow this to go on.

"This is inciting violence, and this is inciting radicalization," said Harvey Levine, regional director of B'nai Brith in Quebec.

"It's against the law and has to be stopped," he said, adding that the complaint was filed with the Montreal hate crimes unit.

Harvey Levine
Harvey Levine, regional director of B'nai Brith in Quebec, urged police to act more quickly. (Sarah Leavitt/CBC)

Montreal police confirmed they received a complaint, but would not provide any more information.

Mosque should apologize, says Muslim council

The president of the Muslim Council of Montreal, Salam Elmenyawi, wants to know why the imam was invited. He says the mosque should apologize.

He added that the Dar Al-Arqam Mosque is not one of the more than 40 institutions the council represents.

Imam Ziad Asali of the Association of Islamic Charitable Projects told CBC Montreal's Daybreak Thursday that he was also mystified as to why the cleric was invited to preach.

"I do not understand how this person was invited to come and give a sermon and spread this hatred in Montreal against any community," he said.

The hadith is one of more than 100,000 that are written in many books, some of which are considered authentic, while others are not, said Asali.

"To use the themes of the Prophet to spread hatred is actually something that is disrespectful towards the Prophet himself," Asali said.

There are mosques in Montreal, the imam said, that embrace a more extremist message.

"These people, not only do they show hatred towards non-Muslims, they even show hatred to us Muslims," he said.

Other complaints

Levine said this is the second complaint against a Montreal-area mosque filed with the Montreal police's hate crime unit in just over 40 days.

He said the police are still investigating that first instance but says they are not taking action soon enough.

"This is totally unacceptable. We want to know why the hate crimes unit has not done something to date yet. This person should be arrested and charged for hate crimes," said Levine.

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CIJA Quebec, an organization that advocates for the Jewish community, said it has a close relationship with the Montreal police and has been following the two complaints.

"We know the Montreal police are seriously and diligently investigating these sermons," said David Ouellette, deputy director for CIJA Quebec.

He added the group believes the police are close to completing their investigation of the first complaint.

Well, unfortunatelly - it is not suprising. He is a true muslim; it is an ideology thing to murder.


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[Zelk]

Obviously the superior white christian male would never call for the murder of jews

[manypillars]

Eh, well, the Quran is pretty explicit in what you are supposed to do with Jews, apostates, and atheists.

[kail]

Is that kind of speech allowed? IMO it shouldn't.

[GrieverXIII]

And anyone calling him out will be portrayed as an Islamophobic bigot.

Welcome to Québec.

[Kuntantee]

Look at this fat fuck spreading hatred...hate speech should be punished severely.

[purebalance]

Obviously the superior white christian male would never call for the murder of jews

Difference being that while white christian males HAVE called for the murder of jews, they haven't done it in regards to them being Christian at a church on video. Show me some video of that and I would bet there would be an overwhelming majority of the Christian community denouncing it like WBC and their nonsense is denounced. Meanwhile I really would like to see how many Muslims have denounced this man and his congregation.

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Look at this fat fuck spreading hatred...hate speech should be punished severely.

It is illegal in Canada..... only if you're a white male.

[May90]

Look at this fat fuck spreading hatred...hate speech should be punished severely.

Hmm... Should your "fat fuck" be punished, in your opinion?

[Magicpot]

Should be legal, yes.

But they also shouldn't be surprised if they end up on terror watchlists and have government benefits like tax exempt status cut over this.

[GrieverXIII]

Should be legal, yes.

But they also shouldn't be surprised if they end up on terror watchlists and have government benefits like tax exempt status cut over this.

With Trudeau at the helm? Hah !

[May90]

With Trudeau at the helm? Hah !

I've never heard of Trudeau approving of murder by nationality. He only approves of murder and torture by economical system! (Ahem, Fidel, ahem, Castro, ahem...)










That was a joke...

[Rennadrel]

And anyone calling him out will be portrayed as an Islamophobic bigot.

Welcome to Canada.

Fixed that for you.

[kail]

Should be legal, yes.

But they also shouldn't be surprised if they end up on terror watchlists and have government benefits like tax exempt status cut over this.

I'm curious how this isn't considered a verbal threat.

[Magicpot]

I'm curious how this isn't considered a verbal threat.

Oh, it is a verbal threat. It's just not targeted at anyone in particular.

Free speech ends with specific threats, which this is not.

But at the same time, some consequences like losing tax exempt status and being more closely watched by anti terrorism agencies should naturally come from saying such a thing.

[Kuntantee]

Hmm... Should your "fat fuck" be punished, in your opinion?

Who is "my" fat fuck?

[Acidbaron]

While this yet another negative light on the muslim community, it is however also a good thing that these things come out since it means it is being reported on and dealt with and it will lift mosques out of place where hate preachers can get away with anything and infected minds.

I hope people are aware that a muslim most likely made this video to display this hate preacher or at the very least someone saw the video who could understand arabic fluently and reported this to the authorities.

[May90]

Who is "my" fat fuck?

Maybe I consider that "fat fuck" is a hate speech against obese people! Are you willing to face the legal consequences?

[sarahtasher]

Just one question, how do you think prosecuting someone for hate crimes go in Canada ?

I know, your sites tell you that you are jailed for saying on Facebook stuff, but in the real world, it took litteral decades to expel someone who was not even a Canadian citizen, Ernest Zundel

Of course, Zundel is a hero of the alt-right, since he was not an impure foreigner, but a 100% pure Aryan nazi-lover (he thus had the right to express complex political opinons like 'MAH LUVE HITLER'' and ''KILL DAH DJEWWWS'') He was just ''using his fradum of spach'' by squeaking like a rat the negationnist drivel that is the gospel of the brownshirt crowd.

[Kapadons]

Just one question, how do you think prosecuting someone for hate crimes go in Canada ?

I know, your sites tell you that you are jailed for saying on Facebook stuff, but in the real world, it took litteral decades to expel someone who was not even a Canadian citizen, Ernest Zundel

Of course, Zundel is a hero of the alt-right, since he was not an impure foreigner, but a 100% pure Aryan nazi-lover (he thus had the right to express complex political opinons like 'MAH LUVE HITLER'' and ''KILL DAH DJEWWWS'') He was just ''using his fradum of spach'' by squeaking like a rat the negationnist drivel that is the gospel of the brownshirt crowd.

What the fuck is the matter with you ?

[Deleted]

What the fuck is the matter with you ?

The person has gone off the deep end and is just spamming unrelated hyperbole and xenophobe tropes aimed at rednecks. Just ignore him/her and it'll go away.