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As of now political opinions are not a protected class for anti-discrimination. Legally there's nothing wrong with refusing service to him. As far as my personal opinion goes, Trump's political rhetoric isn't some poorly understood mystery. If people are supportive of him, they're supportive of it, or permissive of it. That's reason enough to refuse them service.
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2017-03-28, 05:20 PM #161Scarab Lord
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2017-03-28, 05:20 PM #162Bloodsail Admiral
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Doesnt matter if it's "protected" or not. It's all the same exact discrimination regardless.
Originally Posted by breadisfunny
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2017-03-28, 05:21 PM #163Epic!
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LMAO Originally Posted by GennGreymane
Originally Posted by Dzudzadzo
No need, they didn't discriminate in violation of any Protected Class, the guest has no merit for a case and the only reason they wouldn't want to have tossed him out is if their clientele wasn't primarily Liberal.How to tell if somebody learned World Geography in school or from SNL:
"GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
SNL: Can't be Diomede Islands, say her backyard instead.
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2017-03-28, 05:21 PM #164Banned
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with his sworn statement... silly you Originally Posted by Kujako
and you bet the bartender wont bother lying on oath over something small and stupid (stupid that they had a problem with the hat)
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2017-03-28, 05:22 PM #165Epic!
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Originally Posted by Peggle
Neither are Protected classes.How to tell if somebody learned World Geography in school or from SNL:
"GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
SNL: Can't be Diomede Islands, say her backyard instead.
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2017-03-28, 05:22 PM #166The Insane
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So the hat wearer is beyond doubt, but the bar tender will definitely lie? Seems you may be a bit biased in your opinion. Originally Posted by oxymoronic
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2017-03-28, 05:23 PM #167Mechagnome
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they do like the bakery that didnt wanna make a cake for a gay couple but that resulted in bigtime backlash Originally Posted by hulkgor
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2017-03-28, 05:26 PM #168Titan
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Im sure dude perjured himself for the luls. Originally Posted by Kujako
READ and be less Ignorant.
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2017-03-28, 05:26 PM #169Epic!
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Originally Posted by Grimreaper
Nope.
You're only in violation of Civil Rights law (aka Discrimination) if it's based on a Protected Class.How to tell if somebody learned World Geography in school or from SNL:
"GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
SNL: Can't be Diomede Islands, say her backyard instead.
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2017-03-28, 05:27 PM #170Titan
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Originally Posted by Kujako
No, he said the barkeep wont bother lying.bartender wont bother lyingREAD and be less Ignorant.
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2017-03-28, 05:28 PM #171Stood in the Fire
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This. I've managed bars and clubs for going on 10 years now. You wouldn't believe the amount of people that don't understand what "Right to refuse service" means. It's a private establishment, they can refuse you service for ANY reason they want to. Originally Posted by zenkai
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2017-03-28, 05:30 PM #172Banned
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Outside of discrimination protected by laws, yes, you're right. Originally Posted by noladrew
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2017-03-28, 05:33 PM #173Bloodsail Admiral
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All discrimination is the same is what i'm saying, legally speaking or not. Doesnt matter if you make up laws to protect whom you see fit from it. It's still the same. Originally Posted by alexkeren
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I wonder. Can you then refuse service to a black person for being black, when he is wearing a MAGA hat? Or does it only work for white people? Originally Posted by zenkai
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2017-03-28, 05:33 PM #174Scarab Lord
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Was not allowed in Washington Redskins bar with Bills jersey on. Did not complain to a lawyer.
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2017-03-28, 05:33 PM #175The Insane
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Oh... yes, yes indeed. Originally Posted by LongTimeCreeper
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If you say pls because it is shorter than please,
I'll say no because it is shorter than yes.
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2017-03-28, 05:34 PM #176Banned
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Well you can as long as you're refusing them because they are wearing the MAGA hat, but of course we know what the argument would be in the real world. Originally Posted by Grimreaper
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2017-03-28, 05:35 PM #177Epic!
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Originally Posted by noladrew
Technically it's more no reason, not any reason.
Bars that only serve alcohol do have less restrictions on that right, but are by no means private establishments. But a club, where there's entertainment, or a pub, where there's food, do have the same standard as restaurants and other public establishments.How to tell if somebody learned World Geography in school or from SNL:
"GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
SNL: Can't be Diomede Islands, say her backyard instead.
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2017-03-28, 05:35 PM #178Dreadlord
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Case in point. Endus infracting for that statement. Seriously, grow up. Originally Posted by mayhem008
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2017-03-28, 05:38 PM #179Epic!
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Originally Posted by Grimreaper
No, yes, no.
The moment you bring race in it violates Civil Rights, but if you just say the refusal of service is due to the hat it's fine. Of course your tone of delivery and body language can give cause for a discrimination suit.How to tell if somebody learned World Geography in school or from SNL:
"GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
SNL: Can't be Diomede Islands, say her backyard instead.
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2017-03-28, 05:43 PM #180Bloodsail Admiral
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The discrimination is the still the same, just not the outcome. We're not talking about outcome here, we're talking about the act of discrimination. If i refuse service to someone based on the color of their skin it's the exact same act as me refusing service to someone else based on their age/sex/religion/political standpoint/sexual preferance/etc. There is absolutely no difference in the act itself. Originally Posted by alexkeren
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