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  1. #41
    Ut oh, we're up against the double whammy, Garack and Greymane and assorted other Russians.

    1. There's over 400K civilians trapped in Mosul.

    2. ISIS has positioned truck bombs all over the city.

    3. Iraqis, it's their city, are calling in bomb strikes.

    4. It's not Syrian Sunni rebels against Assad, it's ISIS who are against everyone.
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    "This will be a fight against overwhelming odds from which survival cannot be expected. We will do what damage we can."

    -- Capt. Copeland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Ut oh, we're up against the double whammy, Garack and Greymane

    1. There's over 400K civilians trapped in Mosul.

    2. ISIS has positioned truck bombs all over the city.

    3. Iraqis, it's their city, are calling in bomb strikes.

    4. It's not Syrian Sunni rebels against Assad, it's ISIS who are against everyone.
    Would this be Garack Feat: Greymane or Greymane Feat: Garack?

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    What was the original plan? Take Baghdad before the end of Obama's regime? Seems that they failed miserably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taftvalue View Post
    and put our soldiers' lives at risk?
    Part of their job. They signed up for it. They knew they could be killed. We can always make more.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Dont hear much when for example the saudis bomb civilians daily in yemen.

    What matters is that isis is trapped in mosul with no way of escaping, so we can hope they all starve to death there. Pussies with no chance in combat exept for when they have tons of civilians to use as human shields.

    Quote Originally Posted by b2121945 View Post
    What was the original plan? Take Baghdad before the end of Obama's regime? Seems that they failed miserably.
    There is no problems in bagdad execpt of course for daily suicide bombings against civilians i think you mean mosul? they only have like 2 places left mosul in iraq and raqqa in syria that the kurds will fuck up. The reason it takes so long is as i said their use of human shields and other cowardly shit.

    Isis biggest mistake was invading kurdish lands way back, the kurds have been kicking their asses ever since. That and executing us journalists getting them involved, dont think they like all those airstrikes to much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Activi-T View Post
    Yes, let's totally forget the fact that chemical weapons were used against the people of Syria by their own government.
    It was never proven that government forces used chemical weapons, thus far the only forces proven to have used them are the rebels (who were dumb enough to put it on social media lol).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Activi-T View Post
    The Arab Spring is the reason we decided to 'help fuck up Libya', we saw a chance at democracy and rolled the dice.
    Let's not forget Gadaffi was a madman that only retained power because he was a useful tool to the West, when he stopped being useful, became more deranged and threatened to go door to door to end the 'insurgency' in Benghazi that's when the West could no longer stand idly by.
    Jesus christ. Take the Internet off from this man for the love of jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taftvalue View Post
    and put our soldiers' lives at risk?
    The hell is the point of becoming a soldier then? You sign up for the job then that's a very real threat you face. Should cops just never do anything either since their lives are at risk even with a basic traffic stop?

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    Send in more ground troops instead of continually airtstriking everyone and everything?
    They have others that do that like the iraqi army and the kurds and all kinds of other militias and shit, no need for the us to get involved with ground troops other then being there to advice them.

    Takes along time as isis as usual use the civilians as human shields and boby trapp everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJrogue View Post
    Jesus christ. Take the Internet off from this man for the love of jesus.
    Thanks for furthering the discourse with this insightful reply.

    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    It was never proven that government forces used chemical weapons, thus far the only forces proven to have used them are the rebels (who were dumb enough to put it on social media lol).
    It was proven by a UN panel who had the specific task of determining who were the perpetrators of the attack. You can find stories quoting this on media sources across the political spectrum. Here is another: http://www.politico.eu/article/un-re...defying-obama/

    Quote Originally Posted by Elim Garak View Post
    It doesn't matter where perpetrators took the weapons from.

    The last bit is a fabricated lie.



    Media? Really? Lies all of it.
    Keep those fingers planted firmly in your ears all you want it doesn't change reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Activi-T View Post
    Keep those fingers planted firmly in your ears all you want it doesn't change reality.
    Talking to yourself already?
    All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side

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    Quote Originally Posted by Activi-T View Post
    Thanks for furthering the discourse with this insightful reply.



    It was proven by a UN panel who had the specific task of determining who were the perpetrators of the attack. You can find stories quoting this on media sources across the political spectrum. Here is another: http://www.politico.eu/article/un-re...defying-obama/



    Keep those fingers planted firmly in your ears all you want it doesn't change reality.
    Are you joking? You're to be ignored, not talked to. You're just as dangerous as the guys telling you the rubbish you regurgitate in here. There was a time when being gullible and foolish was somewhat of an excuse. Today no more. You're as guilty as the warhawks filling your head with shit.

    "We saw a chance at democracy and rolled the dice"
    Seriously, shut the fuck up dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJrogue View Post
    Are you joking? You're to be ignored, not talked to. You're just as dangerous as the guys telling you the rubbish you regurgitate in here. There was a time when being gullible and foolish was somewhat of an excuse. Today no more. You're as guilty as the warhawks filling your head with shit.

    "We saw a chance at democracy and rolled the dice"
    Seriously, shut the fuck up dude.
    Nothing I said is demonstrably false. I've derailed things enough with corrections. I suggest you educate yourself on the subject by listening to Ghadaffi's own words in his recorded and published diatribes instead of trying to shut down a conversation with "lol take his internet away." And "shut the fuck up", neither of which show you in a positive light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Activi-T View Post
    Nothing I said is demonstrably false. I've derailed things enough with corrections. I suggest you educate yourself on the subject by listening to Ghadaffi's own words in his recorded and published diatribes instead of trying to shut down a conversation with "lol take his internet away." And "shut the fuck up", neither of which show you in a positive light.
    With your infantile views on international politics, you have shown us you are not in the position of suggesting anything to anyone.
    "We saw a chance at democracy and rolled the dice"

    Read that sentence a good few times. You said that. Be ashamed.

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    isnt there a saying, that the first casualty of war is the truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Activi-T View Post
    It was proven by a UN panel who had the specific task of determining who were the perpetrators of the attack.
    It wasn't proven who did it, they proved what caused the deaths (Sarin weapon) and theorised it may have come from the Syrian military but never found any proof. We still don;t know if it was a weapon used by the Syrian military, a captured weapon used by ISIS or a weapon captured by the rebels that was then damaged in an airstrike.

    The media are the ones who said it must have been the Syrian military (which is pretty shoddy journalism considering that would be the side with the least to gain and the most to lose).

    The only side thus far that has been categorically proven to have used chemical weapons (chlorine gas) is the rebels (helped by the fact they filmed themselves during one of the attacks).

  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by May90 View Post
    There could be progress, if Pentagon didn't care about civilian casualties and "bombed the hell out of ISIS" (as one White House genius proposed). Only then journalists would be writing not about 100, but 100,000 civilian casualties.
    Precisely. You obviously can't just nuke the middle east. But you can't just wait around for the perfect sniper shot to kill every single member of ISIS individually either. You'd never get anywhere. As horrible as collateral damage like this is, in reality there is a balance. If one innocent life is lost in order to take out 100 terrorists who would have caused significantly more harm then it was worth it. In a perfect world you'd never have any innocent lives lost, but that's just not realistic if your goal is to eliminate ISIS.

    In this case, with collateral of 100 casualties, they were probably not careful enough.

  18. #58
    America First, it sucks for those people but honestly I don't really care as long as it is not US Military or Terrorists in the homeland. Moral of the story, don't live in/visit shitty countries with terrorists.

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    don't live in/visit shitty countries with terrorists.
    Yeah because obviously people have a choice where they're born.

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    Wonder if the author of the article even read what he wrote with a title like that.

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