Starfall not scaling with haste a huge nerf?

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Ultimately DPS is much less important than DPET. That's like arguing that casting DoTs is useless because moonfire only does 50k DPS while spamming wrath does 150k.

Stop applying Logic.

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What is the DPS loss you're measuring there? Total starfall related damage (Starfall + Echoing Stars + Moonfire Empowerment + Sunfire Empowerment) or just the Starfall damage itself?

It's starfall + echoing stars damage. Empowerment damage didn't change at all since 100% uptime was easily possible before the patch aswell.

[Myztikrice]

But wasn't that uptime at the cost of only casting Starfall whereas now you can fit in a few Starsurges?

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But wasn't that uptime at the cost of only casting Starfall whereas now you can fit in a few Starsurges?

no, you never casted starsurge for AOE (outside of OI procs).

[Tandris]

While this is an overall nerf to starfall damage, I'm having trouble hating the change. Not having to spam starfall and being able to actually moonfire everything and get other casts off can have advantages in other situations. It lowers the necessity of SotF for AoE fights... I was able to run Incarnation on Spellblade this week without any real problems keeping Starfall up 100% when adds were alive.