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    China is banning beards and veils in muslim region of Xinjiang

    Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/31/as...ang-new-rules/



    No long beards. No veils in public places. No home-schooling.

    China is intensifying its crackdown against what it deems religious extremism in the far-west province of Xinjiang, which is home to 10 million Muslims.
    The latest measures -- outlined in a sweeping new anti-extremism legislation -- take effect Saturday and come on the heels of a series of steps to increase surveillance in the region that include the surrender of passports and mandatory GPS trackers in cars.

    "They're doubling down on security in Xinjiang," said James Leibold, an associate professor at Australia's Le Trobe University, whose research focuses on China's Uyghur minority.

    What are the latest measures?
    The new legislation, which was published on a regional news portal run by the provincial government, appears to standardize, and expand across the whole province, piecemeal rules and regulations that have been enacted in individual towns and cities.
    Specifically, it prohibits:


    Advocating or propagating extremist thoughts
    Wearing or forcing others to wear full-face coverings
    Hyping up religious fanaticism through growing beards or choosing names in an abnormal way
    Not allowing children to receive state education, interfering with state education;
    Deliberately interfering or harming the implementation of family planning policies;
    Publishing, downloading or reading articles, publications and audio-video material containing extremist content;
    Rejecting or refusing state products and services that include radio and television programming.



    The law didn't explain these measures in detail or define abnormal, but the English-language state-run China Daily did say that long beards would be banned "as they are deemed to promote extremism."

    Why is China so concerned?

    Hundreds of people have been killed in Xinjiang in recent years; the government describes the perpetrators as terrorists inspired by religious extremism.
    There has been a spate of high-profile attacks involving ethnic Uyghurs, a Turkic-speaking minority, outside the province.
    These include a 2014 attack outside a rail station in the southwestern city of Kunming that killed 31 people, and an attack in Beijing in 2013 when a car drove into a crowd of tourists and killed five people.

    In March, President Xi Jinping called for a "great wall of iron" to safeguard the region's stability.
    Xinjiang, a resource-rich province, plays a key role in the "One Belt, One Road" initiative championed by Xi. The project aims to improve economic ties with central Asia and Xi wants no disruption to a landmark international conference he is holding on it in May.

    "We'd be foolish to deny that China has a problem with terrorists," Leibold told CNN.

    "But I think the Communist Party is exaggerating the threat of radical Islam and they are turning up the heat in assimilating the Uyghurs into the Chinese nation state."

    Who are the Uyghurs?

    The Uyghurs are largely Muslims, who are the dominant ethnic group in Xinjiang, a large autonomous region that borders Russia, Mongolia, central and south Asia.
    Uyghurs regard themselves as linguistically, culturally and ethnically close to central Asia, despite a long history of Chinese rule.


    Tensions have arisen between Uyghurs and the Han, the predominant ethnic group in China, who have migrated to Xinjiang in large numbers over the past 60 years.
    A 2011 report by the US Congressional-Executive Commission on China said that Han workers have taken most of the new jobs and unemployment among Uyghurs is high. Activists say China has been taking measures to undermine the Uyghur language, culture and religious practices including restrictions on observing Ramadan.
    In a response to a question on whether the Chinese government was seeking to repress the Muslim faith in Xinjiang, Lu Kang, China's foreign ministry spokesman said on Wednesday that "the objective fact is that the people of all ethnicities in Xinjiang, just like the people living in other regions of China, are enjoying better lives, working conditions and brighter prospect for development."
    "We oppose the approach of linking terrorism with a certain ethnicity or a certain religion," he added.
    Leibold said the government has been slowly increasing measures since July 2009, when some 200 people were killed in ethnic riots that were prompted by long-simmering resentment many Uyghurs have for the Han.

    Are there Uyghur terror groups?

    Beijing has blamed the violence on Islamic militants, led by the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM), which the US State Department listed as a terrorist organization in 2002 a year after the September 11 attacks.
    But many analysts dispute its characterization as an Al Qaeda or ISIS-style group.
    In February, a 28-minute video analyzed by the SITE Intelligence Group appeared to show Uyghur militants threatening to return to China to "shed blood like rivers." SITE said it was produced by ISIS.

    When asked about the video, China's Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said he wasn't aware of it, but said: "East Turkestan terrorist forces represented by the East Turkestan Islamic Movement pose a grave threat on security and stability of China and the region."
    The China Daily, a state-run newspaper published an editorial that went further: "the video lends further credence to Beijing's claim, especially the oft-ignored assertions of links between domestic and foreign terrorist elements."
    China has long asserted Uyghur fighters have joined the ranks of ISIS in Syria and Iraq. New America, a US think tank, estimates that 100 Uyghurs having gone abroad to fight for the ISIS cause, while the state-run Global Times put the figure at about 300.



    How do people in Xinjiang feel about this?

    The Chinese government tightly controls access to the area.
    Journalists are closely monitored when in the province, and sometimes are prohibited from accessing certain parts of the region all together. The same applies for non governmental organizations.
    Leibold says the new security measures drive resentment underground and widens the gulf of misunderstanding and between the Chinese state and Uyghurs.
    "This is an example of a surveillance society that we've never seen across China," he said.

    However, not all Xinjiang residents see Beijing's security build-up as a problem.
    "I don't think they're restrictions," a 30-year-old Uyghur woman in Xinjiang's Manasi County told CNN earlier this month on the condition of anonymity because she's not authorized to speak to media by her employer. "I think the government is doing its job."
    She said while she's noticed a steady influx of ethnic Han Chinese move into the region over the years, but she hasn't felt discriminated -- either in the Chinese school she attended or in her job as a nurse.
    She added she didn't mind attending the mandatory weekly flag raising ceremony, because it's the same thing she did in school growing up, and thinks installing GPS in vehicles and other surveillance devices is for the greater good.
    Dolkun Isa, Secretary General of the World Uyghur Congress (WUC), an exile group based in Germany, said that Chinese news coverage focuses on violence perpetrated by a tiny fraction of the population and "this shapes how some view Uyghurs generally -- though clearly unfairly".

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    So they're being more like Trump than Trump himself?

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    China being at the forefront of human rights, as always.
    /s

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    I wonder if it applies to medical/smog masks like the one the lady has in the picture.

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    Who is culturally stronger, islam or china?

    Find out next time on WW3

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    We all know what greater good really means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hisholyness View Post
    Who is culturally stronger, islam or china?

    Find out next time on WW3
    Hope China wins then. Chinese people way more peacefull then islam.


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    Good for china! Supporting it!
    What's wrong with beards?

    Quit playing for the foreseeable future.

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    what do beards have to do with this?


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    Seems like a more gentle poke in a certain direction. Considering China could simply choose to outright ban the religion in their country altogether.

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    BREAKING NEWS
    China does its totalitarian regime, earns praise from American right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clone View Post
    BREAKING NEWS
    China does its totalitarian regime, earns praise from American right.
    Well, you tell me, a month ago it seemed as though the US relationship with China was the sacrosanct duty of the US to upheld and respect, with One China and all.

    Guess it's no longer the case now.

    And I can guarantee that Russia will be named at least once in this thread as the culprit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    Hope China wins then. Chinese people way more peacefull then islam.
    I really don't think 'peaceful' is an accurate characterization of Chinese people.
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    There are no 2 species that are 100% identical.
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    can you leftist twits just fucking admit that quantum mechanics has fuck all to do with thermodynamics, that shit is just a pose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimlix View Post
    Hope China wins then. Chinese people way more peacefull then islam.


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    I completly agree!
    Fucking infracted because of that? stupid liberal moderator not open to opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoboA View Post
    I completly agree!
    Fucking infracted because of that? stupid liberal moderator not open to opinions.
    Breaking forum rules is bad.

    Stop acting like a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archmage BloodElf4Life View Post
    Well, you tell me, a month ago it seemed as though the US relationship with China was the sacrosanct duty of the US to upheld and respect, with One China and all.

    Guess it's no longer the case now.

    And I can guarantee that Russia will be named at least once in this thread as the culprit.
    The One-China policy is a red line. Respecting that isn't just for the US-China relations, but also for maintaining some semblance of regional stability.

    That doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't criticize China for other things.
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    There are no 2 species that are 100% identical.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redditor
    can you leftist twits just fucking admit that quantum mechanics has fuck all to do with thermodynamics, that shit is just a pose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by High Priest Arafal View Post
    what do beards have to do with this?
    The Chinese politicians are jealous because they aren't old enough to grow beards
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    Did you know that salt has sodium and chlorine in it!!!! Sodium explodes when exposed to atmosphere and you clean your toilets with chlorine!!

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    Good luck taking that to court or protest in china, if they say it's so im pretty sure that's what it it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoboA View Post
    I completly agree!
    Fucking infracted because of that? stupid liberal moderator not open to opinions.
    Hoping for the death of a billion people = opinions

    ...what the hell did I just read?
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    Just because Mannoroth and Archimonde are involved doesn't mean it's Legion. They could just be on vacation, demolishing Draenor to build their new summer home.
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