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  1. #301
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pwaite View Post
    Maybe he rolled on a PvP server before world PvP was turned into the big pile of shit it has become ?
    Not being able to farm freely because of the opposite faction ? Yeah never heard in vanilla for sure...
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  2. #302
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyviner View Post
    What argument are you looking for? I just explained why I think your acting like a fanboy and you keep saying it's because you disagree with me. I'm not sure if you just lack the intelligence to understand my general ideas or if your being a dumb dumb on purpose.

    A blizzard fanboy will immediately come to the defense of Blizzard and blame the player for the problem, even when the game (and Blizzard) has obvious problems. That is exactly what you did.

    If your not a fanboy, then you can easily accept that world PvP has some obvious flaws and we should be holding Blizzard responsible for them, not the players. What's so hard to understand about that? So, explain to us your views on this topic, without immediately putting all the blame on the player. Or do you just believe world PvP is perfect, no reason to complain? I dare you to embarrass yourself a third time with this "I'm a fanboy because I disagree" nonsense.
    That's some serious flaws in your logic. One can agree with Blizzard on something and disagree with them on other things. There's no side here. The validity of an argument has nothing to do with the sides associated with them whether Blizzard or players. The things you percieve as "obvious flaws" may not be percieved as such by people. I would recommend you to stop throwing around the term fanboy unless extremely obvious.

  3. #303
    Quote Originally Posted by Fummockelchen View Post
    If that would be true you wouldnt be on a pvp server....
    What? That does not even make sense.
    The server used to only have hord players and that worked fine. Now it does not and thats not fine.

  4. #304
    Quote Originally Posted by Pwaite View Post
    Maybe he rolled on a PvP server before world PvP was turned into the big pile of shit it has become ?
    Whatever, ganking / group steamrolling has been around since day one.

    Don't like pvp? Go to a pve server and queue for pvp events like battlegrounds if you still want to pvp.

    I did that some 10 years ago and it was amazing.

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    Kill or be killed. If you can't hang go hit up a PVE server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atenime45 View Post
    If I want to do PvP I would go to BG not Broken Shore.
    If you don't want to be attacked in the world you should go to a PvE server. If BG is the only PvP you enjoy, then here is some good news for you: You CAN still do arena and BGs in PvE servers!!!!!

    Shocking I know.

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    First off like most people say, if you don't like pvp don't go to pvp server. But im sure that's a played out response. Here's a solution, perhaps you can make the efforts in changing servers, instead of inconveniencing those that actually want to pvp on the server that it's the purpose of. If money is the issue, then make the effort in farming enough gold to be able to buy a token and use it for Blizzard credit so that you can buy a server change that way. You want to inconvenience the majority of the players on a server pool because you don't like something? If the problem is you then perhaps you can be the solution as well, is what i'd say.

    For example, i raided with the same guild for years. Recently, the quality of players we have retained went down a bit. The content we used to do easy is now difficult for us. I know that im over performing for my gear but i cant carry everyone. Is the solution for blizzard to nerf the content or for me to find a better guild? I found a better guild. They do with ease the things that my other guild struggled with. I'm still over performing and carry dps in this guild but im okay with the level atm. I could ask blizzard to nerf content a bit more but im okay with how it is now because were going through content at a steady pace.

    TLDR: Don't ask for other people to solve your problems when you can do it yourself...

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    Rolled on a PVP server. Complains about PVP happening.

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    Close this thread already, lol.

    Yet again differences of perception on how "working as intended" has devolved into "my opinion is true, yours is not" over one of the oldest qualms people have with this game.

    I suppose forming a group/raid to simply camp a world quest area (let's say, the basilisks + petrified Legionfall soldiers area) and mercilessly kill the opposite faction over and over and over and over... to some that can be construed as abusing the ability to attack players of the opposite faction at will.

    ...but that is allowed on PvP servers. Unless there are hacks/cheats/clear-as-day-exploits going on why is there a thread on this? ANOTHER thread on this?

    Just close it before it gets worse, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorcanna View Post
    So WPVP "is dead", yet people do nothing but bitch and whine that there's not enough WPVP incentives...?
    And that is exactly why it's dead. It's basicly pretty pointless and a total waste of everyone's time. Doing something that has no reward other than feeling good about yourself (because you have killed and afk person on a FP :P ) isn't something people in an mmo are willing to do - at least not most of them.

    The Horde VS Alliance makes perfect sense, L2 follow the story perhaps?
    Yes, I follow the story closely and since the end of TBC the conflict is forced and makes no sense what so ever.

  11. #311
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    In all fairness people don't really complain when PvP happens. People complain when it's a gangbang of the opposite faction. That isn't PvP at that point.
    And yet they don't complain when they are the ones doing the gangbanging.

    World PVP isn't always going to be fair... that's part of the experience.
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  12. #312
    what sucks is that blizzard's only real solution to this is 'give us $50 or more to transfer to a PvE environment'

    that said, just bite the bullet and do it (or reroll.) The experience is much nicer. World PvP hasn't been enjoyable since the original tarren mill days

  13. #313
    Quote Originally Posted by atenime45 View Post
    Title says it all. It's impossible to farm on my server because there are as many horde groups farming as alliance groups. Farming shards turns into massive PvP shit and I have to leave. If I want to do PvP I would go to BG not Broken Shore.
    Git
    Gud.
    Or swap to a PvE server.
    It's genuinely that simple. Faction change or roll a boomkin/Rogue alternatively to be able to control when you fight.
    Or... Get some friends and fight back. Woop.

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    These forums are ever so helpful.
    Thankfully i only have one rule in life, if you give good advice you have to pay.
    So awesome that this many people are willing to give their hard earned money for me to transfer.
    That'll be 335 bucks for them all.
    Do you prefer cash, in-game gold, perhaps a little battle.net balance via tokens or check?
    Absolutely fantastic. Waited way too long, should have just come directly here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redecle View Post
    These forums are ever so helpful.
    Thankfully i only have one rule in life, if you give good advice you have to pay.
    So awesome that this many people are willing to give their hard earned money for me to transfer.
    That'll be 335 bucks for them all.
    Do you prefer cash, in-game gold, perhaps a little battle.net balance via tokens or check?
    Absolutely fantastic. Waited way too long, should have just come directly here.
    What do you honestly want us to say? Petition blizz to turn PVP servers into PVE servers? Force everyone on PVP servers to play nicely and not gank? Make the human race be fair and not be assholes?

    Well GL with that but i think the honest answer is you all just want a hug and be told that you are right even though you know things aint gonna change!

  16. #316
    Quote Originally Posted by sdagdhfj View Post
    What do you honestly want us to say? Petition blizz to turn PVP servers into PVE servers? Force everyone on PVP servers to play nicely and not gank? Make the human race be fair and not be assholes?

    Well GL with that but i think the honest answer is you all just want a hug and be told that you are right even though you know things aint gonna change!
    No no.. pvp servers can stay as they are, people are assholes there's no changing that. I'll just take the money and be on my merry way.

  17. #317
    I've been playing on PvP servers since Vanilla, and world PvP encounters in this expansion were so cancerous that I finally moved to a PvE server. Was the best thing I ever did. The world PvP in this game is seriously so garbage now that you're better off on a PvE server doing PvP when you choose, rather than getting ganked all day, or instantly killed by everyone with better gear. It really sucks that we are paying Blizzard for their mistakes, but there's no other way around it. They will never fix the problems.

  18. #318
    now i have seen everything.

    seriously. you have four options - transfer to a non pvp server, reroll on a non pvp server, deal with it, or quit the game.

    the fact is, i remember playing on a pvp server at BC launch with everyone having to go through the gate into hellfire peninsula. no one leveled for like 6 hours as it was just a giant pvp fest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daetur View Post
    I'm usually very sympathetic to people on PvP servers who complain about ganking or other degenerate behavior- where players are deliberately picking on someone wh stands no chance against them to interfere deliberately with their ability to play-but this sounds like exactly the situation that is what PvP servers are DESIGNED for: equal competition over resources and contested areas. If that's not an experience you want, then you REALLY don't want to be on a PvP server, since that's exactly what they're intended for.
    I'd agree if server merges and sharding weren't in the game. I have characters on Sargeras-US which is -heavily- overpopulated by Alliance, which I play. But there are times when the server sharding and phasing puts me into an instance with the exact opposite - full of Horde from KT and Illidan - and I get ganked into the ground. That's not the experience that I signed up for when I moved to Sarg, ergo I don't agree that "PvP on a PvP server" is a valid argument anymore unless they disable sharding and phasing with other servers on PvP-enabled realms.

    Note: Sharding is broken in the first place. I've been the only person from a PvP server in a group for Mythic+, I don't have lead and yet somehow my group gets pulled onto a PvP-enabled shard. The way Blizz has implemented it is exceptionally dim-witted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheze View Post
    what sucks is that blizzard's only real solution to this is 'give us $50 or more to transfer to a PvE environment'

    that said, just bite the bullet and do it (or reroll.) The experience is much nicer. World PvP hasn't been enjoyable since the original tarren mill days
    At least some ppl get it.

    Tbh I had the luck to be on the PvE server for a while but due to recruitment issues my guild had to switch servers and I'm back on a PvP server. Server type is hardly a main reason to chose the server. World PvP is just and inconvinience and you chose server to play with certain people rather than to avoid world PvP.

    Over the years I've grown used to it but personally I think it's a waste of time and there is no point to it since BGs were introduced. I never attack ppl unprovoked. When Legion was out there was a bit of fighting here and there but nowadays the majority of people of opposite faction I encounter just do their thing and even help each other from time to time. And we all have to deal with dumb bodyguards who just won't leave the other faction alone :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redecle View Post
    These forums are ever so helpful.
    Thankfully i only have one rule in life, if you give good advice you have to pay.
    So awesome that this many people are willing to give their hard earned money for me to transfer.
    That'll be 335 bucks for them all.
    Do you prefer cash, in-game gold, perhaps a little battle.net balance via tokens or check?
    Absolutely fantastic. Waited way too long, should have just come directly here.


    If only my guild could go back to w PvE realm... and alliance. But I know it ain't gonna happen

    However, on the note of transfers I think they should be cost free if you do them rarely. So let's say once ever 6months (or whatever). If you wanna transfer more often then you have to pay.

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