Is current WoW WoW2?

[Lady Dragonheart]

Technically it's World of Warcraft 7, World of Warcraft 1 was the good version of the game when it still was a RPG and not Diablo.

I disagree, but everyone is entitled to an opinion.

[nspeil]

Changes to a program doesn't make it a new program. World of Warcraft 2 would be a program starting at 1.0 with the name "World of Warcraft 2". It's still just World of Warcraft, on patch 7.2.

hard to say "changes" to a program.

[Lochton]

TBH, I don't see any similarity between vanilla and legion.

Vanilla maps, Vanilla animations, Vanilla models, Vanilla playstyles have all gone

Depends whom you ask? Some claim a 'WoW2' is a reset. Other claim it would be an overhaul etc.

Myself, no, I do not believe that current WoW is WoW2.

Just because things has been updated and adjusted, doesn't mean it is a new 'you' thing.

[Saverem]

TBH, I don't see any similarity between vanilla and legion.

Vanilla maps, Vanilla animations, Vanilla models, Vanilla playstyles have all gone

It's the same old 20 year engine with cosmetic improvements.

[God Save The King]

You could argue that each expansion is a new game, similar to sequels for other game series. What defines something as a sequel vs. dlc vs. expansion vs. new game entirely is more or less branding. When Blizzard Releases World of Warcraft 2, or something to that effect, we have a sequel. Until then it;s just new expansions.

If we had a major update to the game's underlying software, we could probably say that's a sequel as well. Like an new game engine.

[nspeil]

It's the same old 20 year engine with cosmetic improvements.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...e-does-WoW-use

engine doesn't mean it is the same game. Some people said vanilla wow used war3 engine. War3 and wow are of course, different.

also, no evidence to show blizz still uses the engine what vanilla used.

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Depends whom you ask? Some claim a 'WoW2' is a reset. Other claim it would be an overhaul etc.

Myself, no, I do not believe that current WoW is WoW2.

Just because things has been updated and adjusted, doesn't mean it is a new 'you' thing.

updated or adjusted =/= completely removed

[Serissa]

It's not "WoW 7".

Changes to a program doesn't make it a new program. World of Warcraft 2 would be a program starting at 1.0 with the name "World of Warcraft 2". It's still just World of Warcraft, on patch 7.2.

I disagree here. Did you forgot that it's "WOW Legion" not just "WOW"?

WOW
WOW TBC
WOW WotLK
WOW Cataclysm
WOW MoP
WOW WoD
WOW Legion

Just replace TBC/WotLK/whatever with number.

I know you will argue but let's compare this to movies... Let's take The Matrix for example, there's 3 movies.

The Matrix
The Matrix Reloaded
The Matrix Revolutions

Is Matrix Revolutions 3rd film? Or is it (still) first film just because there's no expressed number in title?

[Darsithis]

I disagree here. Did you forgot that it's "WOW Legion" not just "WOW"?

WOW
WOW TBC
WOW WotLK
WOW Cataclysm
WOW MoP
WOW WoD
WOW Legion

Just replace TBC/WotLK/whatever with number.

An expansion pack requires the original, base game to install and play. It's not World of Warcraft: Legion, it's World of Warcraft with Legion installed. Legion is the new software.

I know you will argue but let's compare this to movies... Let's take The Matrix for example, there's 3 movies.

The Matrix
The Matrix Reloaded
The Matrix Revolutions

Is Matrix Revolutions 3rd film? Or is it (still) first film just because there's no expressed number in title?

These are ridiculous semantics. Those three Matrix films are standalone, complete productions from start to finish. All of them. You don't have to own the prior movie to watch the next one.

World of Warcraft is the base software. It has been heavily changed over the past 13 years, but it's still World of Warcraft. They didn't start a new World of Warcraft, they've merely expanded the one they started with back in 2004. If they started a new World of Warcraft, that would be the second World of Warcraft (or WoW 2), no matter what the official title might be.

[iamthedevil]

It's not "WoW 7".

Changes to a program doesn't make it a new program. World of Warcraft 2 would be a program starting at 1.0 with the name "World of Warcraft 2". It's still just World of Warcraft, on patch 7.2.



Subjective.

It's not "technically" World of Warcraft 7 and we both know the OP isn't referring to version numbers.

It technically IS wow 7 (7.2). It's the 7th iteration of the software.

[Darsithis]

It technically IS wow 7.2. It's the 7th iteration of the software.

It's the 7th major update to the software, but it's not a new release. It's a patch, each one. A partial release that requires the original base to play.

A new release would be standalone, like Windows 95 and Windows 98. Windows 98 was built on the same kernel, but was a standalone release with its own version numbers and didn't require Windows 95. Windows 95 had multiple versions, but you didn't call them Windows 95 1, Windows 95 2, Windows 95 3. It was Windows 95, with a specific patch version.

That's all I'm disputing. There is no World of Warcraft 2. Blizzard has never released a new, standalone version of World of Warcraft separate and different from the current game they've been running for 13 years. Until that happens, it's still just World of Warcraft.

[Lochton]

updated or adjusted =/= completely removed

Removed Features or 'feeling' =/= remake of game/redesign of game/(what ever people believe WoW2 is)

[nspeil]

It's the 7th major update to the software, but it's not a new release. It's a patch, each one. A partial release that requires the original base to play.

It is not a patch. A patch would never eliminate all its old contents.

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Removed Features or 'feeling' =/= remake of game/redesign of game/(what ever people believe WoW2 is)

The game is redesigned and remade.

cash shop

[iamthedevil]

It's the 7th major update to the software, but it's not a new release. It's a patch, each one. A partial release that requires the original base to play.

A new release would be standalone, like Windows 95 and Windows 98. Windows 98 was built on the same kernel, but was a standalone release with its own version numbers and didn't require Windows 95. Windows 95 had multiple versions, but you didn't call them Windows 95 1, Windows 95 2, Windows 95 3. It was Windows 95, with a specific patch version.

That's all I'm disputing. There is no World of Warcraft 2. Blizzard has never released a new, standalone version of World of Warcraft separate and different from the current game they've been running for 13 years. Until that happens, it's still just World of Warcraft.

Yes, we all get that but that still makes it the 7th version.

[nspeil]

A new release would be standalone, like Windows 95 and Windows 98. Windows 98 was built on the same kernel, but was a standalone release with its own version numbers and didn't require Windows 95. Windows 95 had multiple versions, but you didn't call them Windows 95 1, Windows 95 2, Windows 95 3. It was Windows 95, with a specific patch version.

You don't need buy vanilla to play legion too.

[Calfredd]

WoW is still WoW. This isn't Final Fantasy 14 where they relaunched themselves as Final Fantasy 14: A Realm Reborn to show a real "WoW 2".

[Darsithis]

You don't need buy vanilla to play legion too.

You need the current base, which has slowly been updated with prior expansions. You can't play Legion on its own.

It is not a patch. A patch would never eliminate all its old contents.

That's objectively not true by any means. I've released plenty of patches for our software that has rewritten, removed, or added new features and capabilities. That's so untrue that I actually laughed out loud when I read it.

[iamthedevil]

By the way, Windows is a bad comparison since the OSs (like vista&7, 8&10)are built on the same infrastructure. A better comparison would be two games of the same series, both using different engines.

You are pretty much saying that OS Sierra is a completely new OS from El Capitan, which is so far from the truth.

[nspeil]

WoW is still WoW.

WoW isn't WoW. It will always be WoW2 unless blizzard brings back some vanilla features back like old maps/old animations/night elves old models.

[Deleted]

TBH, I don't see any similarity between vanilla and legion.

Vanilla maps, Vanilla animations, Vanilla models, Vanilla playstyles have all gone

Actually, it already is WoW 7. Or 7.2 to be precise. The game has evolved. Move on.

[Calfredd]

WoW isn't WoW. It will always be WoW2 unless blizzard brings back some vanilla features back like old maps/old animations/night elves old models.

To you of course.