Sci-Fi Novel Where All Women Gain Power to Kill Men is Shortlisted for Fiction Prize

[Gemini Soul]

Wonder what the reaction would be if it was written by a man, and the genders were reversed with men killing women.

[GennGreymane]

People don't give a shit that this type of fiction exists. The issue arises when it's lauded and shortlisted for prizes when it's clearly a misandrist, inflammatory work.

Sounds like a lot of works

[Underverse]

This wouldn't end well if the specific gender being killed was switched.

It wouldn't end well if ANY 'protected' group was substituted. Imagine the uproar if these people gained the ability to kill gays with a single touch. Or any ethnic minority. Or any religious minority.

[Thimagryn]

Too bad it's clearly a book focused on male hate and women getting off to the idea of having that kind of power. Roles were reversed? Shit would've been boycotted so fast.

If roles were reversed, it'd probably be shelved in the History section instead of Sci Fi.

[GennGreymane]

Wonder what the reaction would be if it was written by a man, and the genders were reversed with men killing women.

prob triggered people on an internet forum arguing what it would be like if the opposite happened

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It wouldn't end well if ANY 'protected' group was substituted. Imagine the uproar if these people gained the ability to kill gays with a single touch. Or any ethnic minority. Or any religious minority.

Mike Pence memes exist you know

[Underverse]

Sounds like a lot of works

I don't know what this means, but it doesn't look like a cogent argument.

[GennGreymane]

I don't know what this means, but it doesn't look like a cogent argument.

Sure, what ever you say.

[Underverse]

Mike Pence memes exist you know

And they're reasonably acceptable because they're satire, and built with the express purpose of accentuating Pence's negative traits. That's not what's going on here.

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Sure, what ever you say.

I'm glad we agree.

[GennGreymane]

And they're reasonably acceptable because they're satire, and built with the express purpose of accentuating Pence's negative traits. That's not what's going on here.

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I'm glad we agree.

Still exists and people take it pretty seriously on some parts of the web.

[Underverse]

Still exists and people take it pretty seriously on some parts of the web.

Okay, when Pence memes get nominated for literature awards for their edgy homophobia, you let me know, and I'll decry it. Until then that has nothing to do with this thread, so try to stay on topic.

[GennGreymane]

Okay, when Pence memes get nominated for literature awards for their edgy homophobia, you let me know, and I'll decry it. Until then that has nothing to do with this thread, so try to stay on topic.

Sure thing

Nomination =/= winning btw. Also, I know you wont.

[Underverse]

As far as I know they're still selling the Bible at most bookstores.

There's a lot more in the Bible than, as Dragon Claws put it, women (or men) getting off to the idea of being able to instantly kill and man they touch.

That being said, I agree that there's a lot of shit in the Bible that is unacceptable. And if we were to praise the Bible specifically for its misogynistic ideals with literature awards and the such, I would be equally disgusted.

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Sure thing

Nomination =/= winning btw. Also, I know you wont.

Seriously, you know I won't? You don't know jack shit about me. I spend a lot of time maintaining objectivity when it comes to these kinds of things. It's something I promised myself I would do when I was young, because very few people seem to give enough of a damn about truth to embrace it even when it hurts them.

[Trassk]

Something tells me this was the authors way of lashing out at all the men who took one look at her and ran away screaming. Unfortunately we live in a time where her man hating crap gets given public approval, just like modern day sjw marvel.

[GennGreymane]

There's a lot more in the Bible than, as Dragon Claws put it, women (or men) getting off to the idea of being able to instantly kill and man they touch.

That being said, I agree that there's a lot of shit in the Bible that is unacceptable. And if we were to praise the Bible specifically for its misogynistic ideals with literature awards and the such, I would be equally disgusted.

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Seriously, you know I won't? You don't know jack shit about me. I spend a lot of time maintaining objectivity when it comes to these kinds of things. It's something I promised myself I would do when I was young, because very few people seem to give enough of a damn about truth to embrace it even when it hurts them.

I dont believe in platitudes.

[Trassk]

Wonder what the reaction would be if it was written by a man, and the genders were reversed with men killing women.

indeed. although I could spin that into being all the women on earth just disappear and the entire population of men all have to go gay... wait, think I started to daydream there.

[Underverse]

I dont believe in platitudes.

You don't believe they exist, or you don't want to acknowledge them?

In either case, there are no platitudes here, though of course that's at least a partially subjective statement. Still, you're maintaining your characteristic unwillingness to engage in a discussion about the actual topic, rather opting to spew baseless shit about character, thinking you know more about others than you certainly do. Let me know when you have something more to offer than 'mike pence memes', 'lol triggered' and '*insert baseless judgement of character*'.

[Orange Joe]

Wonder what the reaction would be if it was written by a man, and the genders were reversed with men killing women.

Seems there was a series "gor"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gor

Not much in the way of complaints about it.



How about stop playing the victim card?

[Sky High]

Ok? That's an... interesting idea. Sounds kinda stupid but whatever, awards are dumb anyway.

[GennGreymane]

You don't believe they exist, or you don't want to acknowledge them?

In either case, there are no platitudes here, though of course that's at least a partially subjective statement. Still, you're maintaining your characteristic unwillingness to engage in a discussion about the actual topic, rather opting to spew baseless shit about character, thinking you know more about others than you certainly do. Let me know when you have something more to offer than 'mike pence memes', 'lol triggered' and '*insert baseless judgement of character*'.

I dont believe in them. If your argument is you would be a gallant knight regardless of the situation, then what is there to discuss?

[Underverse]

Seems there was a series "gor"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gor

Not much in the way of complaints about it.



How about stop playing the victim card?

From you link:

The Encyclopedia of Fantasy has stated that the first several books are "passable exercises" of Edgar Rice Burroughs style fiction while "later volumes degenerate into extremely sexist, sadomasochistic pornography involving the ritual humiliation of women, and as a result have caused widespread offence".[9][16]

Doesn't seem like you're quite right. But that doesn't matter. The issue here isn't that this literature exists. That's quite fine. The issue is that it's receiving praise and possibly awards as a direct result of the inflammatory and misandrist story which seems to be a central tenet of the book.

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I dont believe in them. If your argument is you would be a gallant knight regardless of the situation, then what is there to discuss?

I never said I would be a gallant knight. I said I would argue for truth. Sometimes the truth is something that mt people disagree with, and sometimes I end up being a villain in other people's eyes.

Again, this is irrelevant to the thread, so I don't know why you're still bringing it up. And, let's not forget that you initiated this with your baseless judgement that I would not criticize a similar book where the victims of these powers are homosexuals, or any other group.