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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Meizor View Post
    BM will still be better and more fun to play than that messy rotation of MM.

    I rather have child's play rotation over rotation that messes my brain.

    Well i actually generally avoid playing that rotation because I play meme spec, which imo is very fun and active. I originally found BM quite boring and uninteractive, but when I started trying to extend dire frenzy duration by attempting to use dire frenzy when the buff was about to wear off, as well as saving aspect of the wild until I had at least 2 dire frenzy stacks, I found BM to be alot more fun!

    Unfortunately that is all thrown out the window now, so I'm forced to either
    A. play meme spec MM and suck on ST fights, while missing out on a ton of AP that would have been thrown into MM, as well as missing out on the racial damage because I switched from troll to orc.
    B. Continue playing BM, but go back to playing an insanely boring and simple minded spec that now does way less ST damage than before.

  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyLuckBox View Post
    Well i actually generally avoid playing that rotation because I play meme spec, which imo is very fun and active. I originally found BM quite boring and uninteractive, but when I started trying to extend dire frenzy duration by attempting to use dire frenzy when the buff was about to wear off, as well as saving aspect of the wild until I had at least 2 dire frenzy stacks, I found BM to be alot more fun!

    Unfortunately that is all thrown out the window now, so I'm forced to either
    A. play meme spec MM and suck on ST fights, while missing out on a ton of AP that would have been thrown into MM, as well as missing out on the racial damage because I switched from troll to orc.
    B. Continue playing BM, but go back to playing an insanely boring and simple minded spec that now does way less ST damage than before.
    Would be nice if race on Alliance had pet buffing racial as well. Atm i'm a Worgen for coolness, extra mobility and crit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyLuckBox View Post
    Over the last week I have spent over 100million artifact power into my Offspec, beast mastery, because the new trait, thunderslash ,made beast mastery a clear significant favorite over my main spec, marksman, for the raiding environment. I also spent $25 to race change from troll to orc in order to gain the 1% pet damage bonus. It was alot of time and effort, spamming mythic+ carry runs to farm the artifact power, as well as my hard earned money. As you can imagine, with the new recent hotfix, which is nerfing thunderslash to the ground, I am quite upset. All of the artifact power that I have gained and then put into the BM artifact could have been spent into MM instead. I consistently rank in the top 99-100% on warcraft logs, so every little bit matters to me, which is why I spent $25 to race change to orc for the pet bonus.

    Please blizzard, I know you won't undo the nerfs to Bm, which is fine to me, but what about all the artifact power I, and probably several other hunters placed into BM instead of MM? Also, the $25 I spent race changing to orc from troll...

    I know this sounds like a whine post, but in hearthstone at least blizzard refunds you dust whenever they nerf or buff a card. Could blizzard at least refund us the AP that hunters have spent over the last week?

    Now ive got all these AP tokens from farming carry runs and i have both my specs at 44 traits, and i dont know what to put points into ;/
    You must be new to warcraft indeed, they do this every patch. No I am not talking about number tuning but playstyle changes.
    So it's wise to no longer care about what you play because the moment you fall in love with a class mechanic you can expect it gone within a few months.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyLuckBox View Post
    Please blizzard
    This is not a Blizzard forum.

    Anyway I think I feel your pain after I just get Jaws of Shadow as Demo Warlock, and they just nerf it so it is worse than +10% imp dmg ... Blizzard really made a mistake with AP, it should be added to ALL weapons, not only 1, this expansion is really a pure dps classes nightmare ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Those View Post
    Anyways, after a couple of artifact knowledge ranks you will get the same amount of AP in a day or two.
    Great idea I will just go back to game when I hit AK50 ... -_-
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  5. #25
    That's the risk you take when you tryhard like that.

  6. #26
    If there is one thing I've learned, then it is the following; do not invest time into changing your spec. Keep playing the spec you feel most comfortable with because what is the best choice right now will not be the best choice in a week or month from now on. It is simply not worth the effort.

    Swapping your main class is another thing, but spec? Definitely not on my list.

  7. #27
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    thats what you get for rolling flavor of the month. what were you expecting? rofl

  8. #28
    Take LnL instead of True Aim unless you never ever target swap. There, solved the single most annoying part of Trick Shot for you.
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  9. #29
    this is why you just play the spec you enjoy playing, top dps specs change from patch to patch etc. this coming from a guy that is pretty try hard. i hate pre 7.15 mm and i hate new mm even more, i would never ever play it. bm my fav, and survival for fun.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Meizor View Post
    Would be nice if race on Alliance had pet buffing racial as well. Atm i'm a Worgen for coolness, extra mobility and crit.
    I was a Worgen as well. I changed races to human though since human and gnomes do 4-5% more dps than worgens. And the added 10% rep perc to get flying faster helped a lot.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Sabinn View Post
    I was a Worgen as well. I changed races to human though since human and gnomes do 4-5% more dps than worgens. And the added 10% rep perc to get flying faster helped a lot.
    Where do you get 4-5% dps? Didn't sim it myself, but according to Icy Veins the most you can get from a race change is around 1.8% for BM and 0.9% for MM.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by andreasels View Post
    Where do you get 4-5% dps? Didn't sim it myself, but according to Icy Veins the most you can get from a race change is around 1.8% for BM and 0.9% for MM.
    Well I got the numbers wrong. I didnt mean 4-5% , I meant 0.4%-0.5%. My bad.

  13. #33
    This is why you should never roll with the flavor of the week/month look at all the people that rolled Shadow priest in EN bottom of the barrel now... So

  14. #34
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    Hahahahahahahahah so much salt, thats what you get for playing FOTM, bet you have a demon hunter alt also

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by igorberry View Post
    people dreams if think a spec that can move and still do perfect rotation will perform at the top, u got ur moment now blizzard is fixing his things
    In MoP, most classes could do that.
    Blizzard obviously thought that was a bit too fun and they ruind it.

  16. #36
    What did we learn? Don't reroll to FOTM, it'll always get nerfed. Play something because you enjoy it. And if you're the kind of player who spends real money and millions of AP to gain an advantage, you should already know how Blizzard works.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyLuckBox View Post
    Well i actually generally avoid playing that rotation because I play meme spec, which imo is very fun and active. I originally found BM quite boring and uninteractive, but when I started trying to extend dire frenzy duration by attempting to use dire frenzy when the buff was about to wear off, as well as saving aspect of the wild until I had at least 2 dire frenzy stacks, I found BM to be alot more fun!

    Unfortunately that is all thrown out the window now, so I'm forced to either
    A. play meme spec MM and suck on ST fights, while missing out on a ton of AP that would have been thrown into MM, as well as missing out on the racial damage because I switched from troll to orc.
    B. Continue playing BM, but go back to playing an insanely boring and simple minded spec that now does way less ST damage than before.


    or stop qqing and realise that even with the nerf...nothing changes...bracers/DF/convergence still produces the best results....just instead of being ahead by 60-75k its ahead by 25-30k.

  18. #38
    People said it to you, bm is still better according to your replies. So there your answer.

    Now, Blizzard generally avoid to make a spec better than the spec which is currently the best during an expac, they said it numerous times before. They don't want people change spec in the course of an xpac because of the nerfs and up.
    I am not a hunter specialist, but I guess bm happened to be the best performing spe at the beginning of the xpac and Blizzard acknowledged this fact; and it still is.

    Edit: not sure how Survival is rated in the 3 available spec, so I may be completly wrong. (!) Read this with a grain of salt.
    Last edited by Aleax; 2017-04-12 at 02:04 AM.

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    Why on earth would you race change for a 1% pet damage increase?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleax View Post
    Now, Blizzard generally avoid to make a spec better than the spec which is currently the best during an expac, they said it numerous times before. They don't want people change spec in the course of an xpac because of the nerfs and up.
    I am not a hunter specialist, but I guess bm happened to be the best performing spe at the beginning of the xpac and Blizzard acknowledged this fact; and it still is.
    Dont belive their lies!

    blizz claimed it early in legion or late in wod. but it was just some bullshit they said to please their customers which never got reflected in reality:
    hunters: mm has been the best hunter specc until they gutted it in 7.15. now its the worst.
    mages: fire up to 7.15, frost since
    warriors: arms at least in early EN, fury at least since 7.15
    rogues: outlaw for the first weeks of EN, assa ever since
    warlocks:destruction in early en, then affl/demo started pulling ahead. since 7.2 its affli all the way
    dks: uh up to 7.15 or mid en, not too sure; frost at least since 7.15
    shamans: enh up to 7.15, ele + enh have been pretty close in 7.15, ele now in 7.2

    their statement has been true for monk, priest and dh tho

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