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    Quote Originally Posted by Njorun View Post
    Being born to swedish parents. John ausonius was a 2nd gen immigrant. His parents were german and swiss.
    Problem with that argument is that almost no one would be considered a swede. Your parents might not be immigrants, but their grandparents might have been, or their grandparents etc. Which means that even if your family has lived in Sweden since the 1400s you wouldn't be considered a swede.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zephid View Post
    Problem with that argument is that almost no one would be considered a swede, since their family tree probably started with immigrants.
    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njorun View Post
    Nope.

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    Ehm, yes.

    Your parents might not be immigrants, but their grandparents might have been, or their grandparents etc. Which means that even if your family has lived in Sweden since the 1400s you wouldn't be considered a swede.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephid View Post
    Ehm, yes.

    Your parents might not be immigrants, but their grandparents might have been, or their grandparents etc. Which means that even if your family has lived in Sweden since the 1400s you wouldn't be considered a swede.
    I already went over this earlierin the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephid View Post
    Ehm, yes.

    Your parents might not be immigrants, but their grandparents might have been, or their grandparents etc. Which means that even if your family has lived in Sweden since the 1400s you wouldn't be considered a swede.
    So? You're not going to be a swede by ethnicity, but by nationality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njorun View Post
    I already went over this earlierin the thread.
    Yeah, I'm not gonna sift through 56 pages of dribble just to find your flawed response to that problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maklor View Post
    I already reported it since it's clearly against the rules, made a new report since the mods didn't do anything about it.

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    Still not infracted, the post is 4 days old. We can only assume that this is the type of behavior that moderation condones on these boards.
    Meanwhile we have those responsible for taking action against this debating whether Ebonics are a dialect or not.

    Priorities man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephid View Post
    Yeah, I'm not gonna sift through 56 pages of dribble just to find your flawed response to that problem.
    I'm not going to repeat myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safol View Post
    So? You're not going to be a swede by ethnicity, but by nationality.
    To me, being a swede is all about nationality. I couldn't care less about ethnicity. Njorun on the other hand seem to have a very strange definition of "swede".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njorun View Post
    I'm not going to repeat myself.
    As I thought, you don't have an answer. Well I think I'm done there.

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    That's not even the point, which you would see if you stopped snipping my posts, which you obviously do for some reaaaally unknown reason.
    Mods here would ban you for "insensitive photo" if it was that dead girl, but that dead boy who died "due to evil Europeans who don't want to take in more" was absolutely fine and was posted several times.
    Consent to have your dead child plastered on media is a big deal, out of respect for the family. And the dead boy on the beach didn't contain any gore so there's another possible (I don't know the details about the 11-year old's death) reason why it was more acceptable (in addition to the consent).
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    Quote Originally Posted by zephid View Post
    To me, being a swede is all about nationality. I couldn't care less about ethnicity. Njorun on the other hand seem to have a very strange definition of "swede".

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    As I thought, you don't have an answer. Well I think I'm done there.
    Yeah I have to admit I find it odd, myself. To at least me, if someone is born in Sweden and their parents were, I would consider them swedish, even if the grandparents came from Japan, middle east, afrika and italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephid View Post
    To me, being a swede is all about nationality. I couldn't care less about ethnicity. Njorun on the other hand seem to have a very strange definition of "swede".

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    As I thought, you don't have an answer. Well I think I'm done there.
    You refusingto read it doesn't mean i don't have an answer. Go back and read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigxy the Lemming View Post
    Yeah I have to admit I find it odd, myself. To at least me, if someone is born in Sweden and their parents were, I would consider them swedish, even if the grandparents came from Japan, middle east, afrika and italy.
    So if kim jong moved here and his kids here with his wife and then those kids had kids with a korean they're swedes to you? That's just laughable.



    They say she's not japanese but we're supposed to call nonswedes, swedes? Laughable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Njorun View Post
    So if kim jong moved here and his kids here with his wife and then those kids had kids with a korean they're swedes to you? That's just laughable.



    They say she's not japanese but we're supposed to call nonswedes, swedes? Laughable.
    Well unless you can link me to something official that declares when someone becomes swedish, I can only see it as your opinion, which I personally don't agree to. Because even if there are few 'trueblood' swedish people, majority wouldn't be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigxy the Lemming View Post
    Well unless you can link me to something official that declares when someone becomes swedish, I can only see it as your opinion, which I personally don't agree to. Because even if there are few 'trueblood' swedish people, majority wouldn't be.
    Ethnic swedes can trace their family history way back here in sweden fyi. I have friends who have traced it back to the 12rh century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njorun View Post
    Ethnic swedes can trace their family history way back here in sweden.
    Yeah, like I said - there may be a few. But I certainly can't see majority being true swedish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigxy the Lemming View Post
    Yeah, like I said - there may be a few. But I certainly can't see majority being true swedish.
    That's your own problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njorun View Post
    That's your own problem.
    I would rather call it my 'Opinion' - just like your point of view is unless there's some written statement about it. No proof? Opinion. Sorry if I don't agree with yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigxy the Lemming View Post
    I would rather call it my 'Opinion' - just like your point of view is unless there's some written statement about it. No proof? Opinion. Sorry if I don't agree with yours.
    Mine isn't an opinion. It's what a nation is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njorun View Post
    Mine isn't an opinion. It's what a nation is.
    I'll let you believe that, then. If you do find some written proof about it, do send it my way, I'd be happy to know about it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigxy the Lemming View Post
    I'll let you believe that, then. If you do find some written proof about it, do send it my way, I'd be happy to know about it!
    Go check what nation and nation state are. Sweden is a nation state, swedes are a nation made by ethnic swedes.

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