United States may launch strike if NK tests their nuke on Saturday

[Celista]

Eh, what's a couple of millions dead south koreans as collateral damage in exchange for FREEDOM?

It'll probably be some precision missile targeted at a military base or one of Kim Jong Un's mansions or something.

[Kaleredar]

It'll probably be some precision missile targeted at a military base or one of Kim Jong Un's mansions or something.

"Precision" and "Donald Trump?"

We should count ourselves lucky if he doesn't make this decision over dinner.

[Wyrt]

It'll probably be some precision missile targeted at a military base or one of Kim Jong Un's mansions or something.

It would start a war. Which ally of the US is within striking distances of North Korea? South Korea. Which ally would take most or all of the damage from such a war? South Korea.

The US striking North Korea will come at the cost of South Korean lives.

[Pony Soldier]

I don't know, this kind of concerns me. While I know full well that our military force could beat the shit out of Fatty's pathetic army equipped with such outdated gear in a normal fight I am also concerned about their nuclear weapons. I mean they may not be able to launch long range but short range they can. So if we strike what is going to happen with South Korea? They could easily be destroyed from one of Kim's nuclear missiles. Also Kim, to me, seems like he would act out of desperation. If he realizes that he's going to lose which is what would happen if we end up going to war with them, again nuclear missiles crosses my mind. I just imagine him slamming the big red button and destroying even his own country just to kill the Americans and the rest of the people be damned. He has such a flaming hatred with the US that I can't help but think he'd do ANYTHING to kill us all.

Then you also have China. What is their stance on this? Are they going to help or are they going to continue being the caretaker of their autistic cousin? We could end up going to war with China too, who knows? God I hope not, they're in a way different league than NK and they sure as hell aren't like the cockroaches over in the middle east.

I don't know, I feel like it's a backing a mouse into a corner kind of situation. Maybe I watch too many movies and play too many video games but I mean it is possible, no? I also fear for the people living there. A lot of civilians are going to end up dead unless we find out a way to escort them out of there somehow. It just feels like we're at war with the whole world here too. First there's ISIS, then the bombings in Syria, we've pissed off Russia because of those bombings and we're now on a thin line with them, and NK. China is still uncertain but it's possible they might get in the way as well. What a fucking mess right now.

[eillas]

The way I see it. War with North Korea is inevitable. The sooner Kim family is removed from power, the sooner North Korea can heal.

[Tijuana]

"North Korea is not believed to have a deliverable long-range nuclear weapon, according to U.S. experts, nor does it yet possess an intercontinental missile."

It's a nuclear test, not a nuclear missile being fired, as I understand it.

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"should officials become convinced that North Korea is about to follow through with a nuclear weapons test"

Oh whoops. Yeah, they can light of as many fake nukes underground as they want, imo. Earthquake sensors have refuted some of their prior success claims, but I admit I don't exactly keep up with them all.

[Paranoid Android]

Wow, Trump is fucking desperate for a win.

"Health care!" FAIL
"Um, Mexico will pay for the Wall!" FAIL. Also, the Wall will be seven miles long. As in, one more than six.
"Okay, er, Russia is fake news!" Relations with Russia tank faster than Trump casino stock and investigations into his collusions intensify.
"Okay, then, bomb Syria!" Attack does minimal damage. Syria bombs the same town a second time.
"FINE! China, is okay if we bomb Vietnam?" "You mean North Korea?" "Sure. This cake is delicious and relatively low on health code violations."

So Trump is going to prove Clinton was the War Hawk by bombing three different countries in a week. Are we tired of winning yet?

Watch Trumpkins now cheer all his meddling around the world. Fuck Nationalism, now its own to intervention/war hawk mode.

[Wyrt]

The way I see it. War with North Korea is inevitable. The sooner Kim family is removed from power, the sooner North Korea can heal.

Why though?

Yes, they've been awful to their own people, but they've done little more than taunt other nations. War isn't inevitable unless we make the first strike, because they won't.

[Celista]

"Precision" and "Donald Trump?"

We should count ourselves lucky if he doesn't make this decision over dinner.

He seemed to do OK with Syria. Assuming the intelligence was accurate. If not then we'll have a massive shitfest soon enough.

It would start a war. Which ally of the US is within striking distances of North Korea? South Korea. Which ally would take most or all of the damage from such a war? South Korea.

The US striking North Korea will come at the cost of South Korean lives.

The way I see it. War with North Korea is inevitable. The sooner Kim family is removed from power, the sooner North Korea can heal.

I also feel that war is inevitable at this point, although I'm not entirely convinced that a starving, isolationist country like NK actually has nuclear weapons. No one wants South Koreans to die, but I'm not sure the US can remain passive regarding NK if things have progressed to the point that they're actually testing nuclear weapons, if they actually have them.

If we wait any longer to act, they'll be detonating a nuke. Whether on our allies' soil, or our own.

[Breccia]

Then you also have China. What is their stance on this?

If it was literally any other President, who had just met with China, they would know. But we have Trump. And he has no idea.

The best case scenario, is North Korea prepares a "launch", the US strikes what turns out to be a fake and there's no significant fallout, literally or figuratively. Kim Jong Dumbass gets emasculated on global television and his staff forces him to listen to reason.

Worst case, they basically respond to Trump's threats by rolling down the window and tossing a nuke into South Korea. At that point, it doesn't matter what happens, the result is a loss for the world as a whole. (They're not making it to Japan, the sea is thick with ships)

[Sesshou]

Sure, and we've been operating in the middle east with the aid of various countries there for how long, now?

Is that situation any closer to being "settled?"

But no, I'm sure this time, for realzies, it'll be a simple "run in and overthrow the government and replace it with peace and prosperity" effort. Right?

You're acting like it never works that way, but that is exactly what we did with Japan. There are a lot of factors that went into that which aren't present in the ME. I'm not saying NK would go over as well as Japan but don't act like it has never happened.

[Kaleredar]

He seemed to do OK with Syria.

He dropped a bomb on a thing. That's all he's done.

[Pantupino]

Basically my opinion, go ahead and launch an attack on the norks

[eillas]

Why though?

Yes, they've been awful to their own people, but they've done little more than taunt other nations. War isn't inevitable unless we make the first strike, because they won't.

While trump is an immature idiot. Kim Jon un makes him seem sane. His mental stability is degrading more and more with his acts of cruelty. He's like a bully in a playground. Right now, he cant walk the walk, but if his nuke programs come to fruition, he will be using them.

He's essentially Joffrey Baratheon(Lannister)

[Kaleredar]

You're acting like it never works that way, but that is exactly what we did with Japan. There are a lot of factors that went into that which aren't present in the ME. I'm not saying NK would go over as well as Japan but don't act like it has never happened.

...you mean Japan, whom the US fought for years in a state of total war in an intense series of pitched sea battles?

Besides, the US never invaded the Japanese mainland. That fight would have been magnitudes more complicated, costly, and deadly.

[Poopymonster]

Watch Trumpkins now cheer all his meddling around the world. Fuck Nationalism, now its own to intervention/war hawk mode.

It'll be good for the economy. Gotta make weapons, replace ammo, new uniforms. Reduce unemployment by expanding military numbers. Then gotta make babies, replace soldiers, new uniforms.

It's fucking stupid, but it will be good for the economy.

[Sesshou]

Besides, the US never invaded the Japanese mainland. That fight would have been magnitudes more complicated, costly, and deadly.

No, we just nuked them into submission, went in, tore down their government then replaced it which totally falls under what that poster said.

[Poopymonster]

I doubt the courts will ever step in and rule on the legality of how much Power is allowed to the President to command the operations of the Armed Forces.

Especially not during said war he caused. They'd wait till afterwards, see if the body count from each side warrants a "you naughty boy" or "MURICA FUCK YA!". If naughty, they'd probably step in.

[Kaleredar]

No, we just nuked them into submission, went in, tore down their government then replaced it which totally falls under what that poster said.

Apparently you missed the entire war in the pacific.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_War

[Poopymonster]

. No one wants South Koreans to die,