did ISIS thought they are going to win?

[Exeris]

With the level of education most of them have I not sure they are able to think.

[Calfredd]

Love this logic... "It's ok to kill children guys, they might become terrorists one day..."

Or because the children will see their parents die to those "godless heathens" from the West, they will rise up and become the new isis. But you thinking we should kill children now is another way to look at his post I guess.

[ONCHEhap]

Losing is not a big issue for them,dying while fighting for their god is the greatest glory,this is why they are so dangerous,they don't fear death

[Belize]

How do you expect to "kill" an ideology in the age of information?

[Julmara]

always impresive how good we have become at killing each other when we coud invest in our future

[Draco-Onis]

With the level of education most of them have I not sure they are able to think.

Actually the level of education of ISIS member is high, most with secondary school and university degrees. Some of their leaders have doctorates, there are tons of people with masters and PHDs who are religious zealots here, sadly being educated doesn't make you immune to cult brainwashing.

[GreenJesus]

Or because the children will see their parents die to those "godless heathens" from the West, they will rise up and become the new isis. But you thinking we should kill children now is another way to look at his post I guess.

Well then.. To prevent that we should kill the children of terrorists too... *eyeroll* ..

[Draco-Onis]

Difference is that with Nazi's or the KKK, we don't have them running around blowing up people or running them over with trucks, walking into nightclubs and shooting up the place.

They were much much worse than ISIS, we did not decimate them by just killing alone. The death toll due to racism is so much higher than what ISIS can muster.

Nazi's and KKK or, from what i've learned or heard of, are dying out. Most people like myself don't care what you look like so long as you're not hurting anyone. Do as you do, but once you starting acting evil, that were you should end.

Unfortunately, it's a very difficult topic, but laying down and just taking it isn't going to help either.

I agree we should fight but Nazis and the KKK have had a resurgence as of late, most people just want to live their lives. My point was rather simple you cannot kill an ideology through conventional warfare alone, ISIS and other radicals have been getting a increasing diet of bombing and fighting and we are still getting nowhere.

[Calfredd]

Well then.. To prevent that we should kill the children of terrorists too... *eyeroll* ..

Not sure why you are eyerolling unless you really took "kill the terrorists' families and children" from Skulltaker's post.

[kamuimac]

did ISIS thought they are going to win?
it wasn t hard to predict they would get bombed "the sh$%@t out of them" by the next us president regardless who won

if you were funded and supported by USA you would think that you can win too

just like they thought

guess they didnt lern the lesson what happened to Osama who went from US national hero in 80ties to most wanted in 2000

[Exeris]

Actually the level of education of ISIS member is high, most with secondary school and university degrees. Some of their leaders have doctorates, there are tons of people with masters and PHDs who are religious zealots here, sadly being educated doesn't make you immune to cult brainwashing.

Thought the schools most of these people had gone to was comparable to a steaming turd? Not all of course.

[Dismembered]

did ISIS thought they are going to win?
it wasn t hard to predict they would get bombed "the sh$%@t out of them" by the next us president regardless who won

The problem here is that you can kill as many as you want of them idiots but you can't kill their believe in what they are doing, it is spreading like fire into young people from around the world and this is the problem you can't destroy, sadly.

[Draco-Onis]

Thought the schools most of these people had gone to was comparable to a steaming turd? Not all of course.

They recruit people from all walks of life even foreigners and according to the children who escape ISIS from Syria they keep the school systems running using their own brainwashing courses. They do things like replace counting apples with grenades etc, our intelligence agencies knows better than to underestimate them.

[GennGreymane]

Every time you bomb 1 extremist 2 more pop up. "Bombing the shit out of them" isn't going to do anything.

But it just sounds so manly and tough! I mean how can I be wrong by saying turn billions of people into glass?

[globenstine]

we should either just kill them all or annex the whole place. those people are nothing but savages, all they do is kill each other in droves anyway.

[Ravenblade]

This is not about winning it is about doing "gods" work, they believe killing infidels is the righteous thing to do and every time something bad like a big fucking bomb or a drone strike happens it is a sign to them from god that they've done goofed and then they work even harder to do the "right" thing. They're crazy so you really shouldn't look for any sort of logical conclusion.

If "done goofed" would be the actual conclusion to draw then Islamist terrorism would already be a thing of the past. In fact they do believe the entire opposite. If suffering happens then they believe that they are doing the right thing. They don't seek glorious death for no reason. There are a few groups who do have rather political motives but the hardcore religious ones, which as it happens is what ISIS is, see their political motivation in a clearly religious context making it a militant religious sect even though it had been engineered by political remainders of the Saddam regime. As long as the basis for such thinking exists this will only get worse.

The issue is that ISIS is seen as a "minor annoyance" by the surrounding local powers and their supporters who see Iran and the current Syrian government as a greater threat.

[Noomz]

did ISIS thought they are going to win?
it wasn t hard to predict they would get bombed "the sh$%@t out of them" by the next us president regardless who won

Did the US think it would win against Al Qaeda?

[Osmeric]

How do you expect to "kill" an ideology in the age of information?

You can't kill an ideology, but you can disrupt the social structures that propagate and sustain it. This is especially the case when the ideology becomes embodied in a quasi-government, subject to destruction like any government.

[GennGreymane]

Did the US think it would win against Al Qaeda?

Osama is dead, but fuck it, they won.

[Aeula]

The problem isn't ISIS, they're such a minor and laughable threat that only looks big because of the public attacks they've committed.

The real problem is what created ISIS and what created all the other Terrorist organisations over there. But we won't be dealing with that any time soon, so we just have to put up with it and keep bombing them to make sure they don't gain too much power.