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    Quote Originally Posted by Manabomb View Post
    How do you see it as wasting effort? The birther movement wasted thousands of hours of headlines on whether or not Obama was a legal citizen of the United States.

    I see this as the ball swinging the other direction.
    The birther movement was a waste as well. Also I don't really like this attitude. If we are going to fight over everything it's going to be hard to pass meaningful reforms to address america's stagnant economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    Where can I sign up to be a paid protester?
    Well Donald Trump knows - after all, documented evidence he hired people for his first few Campaign Rallies.

    But as to the rest - if no-one knows where to sign up to be a paid protester, and there were tens of thousands of people out and about - that pretty much proves they weren't paid.

    If they were - then we would know

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    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeth Hawkins View Post
    I fail to see where this outrage is reasonably stemming from. You seem to be implying that there is hypocrisy present, but have yet to point out any such thing.
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...returns-218160

    He said himself that he would release them and has yet to do so. Very hypocritical.


    Regarding paid protesters, it is entirely possible that some at those 150 were paid to be there. I take it you deny this possibility?
    Possible? Yes, but Trump has been known to fabricate bullshit before so we're waiting for evidence of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeth Hawkins View Post
    I fail to see where this outrage is reasonably stemming from. You seem to be implying that there is hypocrisy present, but have yet to point out any such thing.

    Regarding paid protesters, it is entirely possible that some at those 150 were paid to be there. I take it you deny this possibility?
    I guess whenever Trump speaks or tweets all you hear is white noise and see really blocky pixels. Because as it's been pointed out countless times, Trump was giving Bernie Sanders and others shit for thier tax returns being public, but of course any standards that apply to other people don't apply to him, cuz reasons. I guess when you have a group of dedicated sycophants you can get away with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    You ever think he just doesn't want to?
    Sure, but he needs to understand that, because of Presidential tradition, it makes him very suspect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeth Hawkins View Post
    I fail to see where this outrage is reasonably stemming from. You seem to be implying that there is hypocrisy present, but have yet to point out any such thing.

    Regarding paid protesters, it is entirely possible that some at those 150 were paid to be there. I take it you deny this possibility?
    Its possible that Trump fucks his daughter on a regular basis. Are you going to deny that possibility?

    See, anyone can make up unsubstantiated claims and ask others to disprove them. Its not up to them to do that its up to YOU to provide evidence of your claim. Now since you've made that claim go ahead and provide it. I'm eagerly awaiting you showing us all your evidence.
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Omega10 View Post
    False. The more energy he spends on defending himself and trying to act like he is a decent person, the less time he spends damaging the US. This is PRECISELY what we want him to be focusing on.
    This strikes me as a particularly anti-democratic attitude. "Ok I lost the election, so I'm going to make sure none of the promises you made are going to pass" It literally stinks of Obama-era GOP. If the country fails due to the direction in which Trump is leading the country so what? It's the direction americans wanted. Also I find it incredibly funny that now there is an objectively better direction.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Hombregato View Post
    Aside from his typical incompetence, he is right. The election is over and pointlessly trying to go after his tax returns is stupid.
    but yet its a dozen times less pointless then going after Obama's birth certificate for 6+ years, or Hillary emails for 12+ investigations, or Pizzagate for 2+ years now, etc etc

    dirt is king.



    also its not pointless when you suspect that your president might be under influence due to money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    He's a liar. He's a coward. And a hypocrite.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Sure, but he needs to understand that, because of Presidential tradition, it makes him very suspect
    Daz coo, but innocent until proven guilty and you have no actual evidence of any wrong doing. He, and any other president, aren't legally obligated to release them if they don't want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hombregato View Post
    This strikes me as a particularly anti-democratic attitude. "Ok I lost the election, so I'm going to make sure none of the promises you made are going to pass" It literally stinks of Obama-era GOP. If the country fails due to the direction in which Trump is leading the country so what? It's the direction americans wanted. Also I find it incredibly funny that now there is an objectively better direction.
    It's a lot more undemocratic to say "sit down and shut up!"

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    Where can I sign up to be a paid protester?
    Same, I'm tired of waking up early for work when I can just go make signs and make money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hombregato View Post
    This strikes me as a particularly anti-democratic attitude. "Ok I lost the election, so I'm going to make sure none of the promises you made are going to pass" It literally stinks of Obama-era GOP. If the country fails due to the direction in which Trump is leading the country so what? It's the direction americans wanted. Also I find it incredibly funny that now there is an objectively better direction.
    Welcome to the Democrat party, where they do things they complained about. Like complain about Republicans calling people uneducated for not voting for them and then doing the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Daz coo, but innocent until proven guilty and you have no actual evidence of any wrong doing. He, and any other president, aren't legally obligated to release them if they don't want to.
    No shit, thats not the point.

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    I would my nation leader to disclose his taxes, since you as a citizen have to fill in yours for the state every year. And i Believe every President and even candidates released them eventually.

    The longer he refuses to do so the more people have a valid basis to claim he's hiding something. If there is nothing wrong just do it and be done with it. People in support of Trump often argue that the opposition keeps making issues out of nothing, however this time around Trump is merely giving the opposition ammunition to do so. Release them and this issue goes away, you know like how Obama had to go and show his Birth certificate and yes Trump was one of those "birthers" that demanded it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Daz coo, but innocent until proven guilty and you have no actual evidence of any wrong doing. He, and any other president, aren't legally obligated to release them if they don't want to.
    If "only do things you are required to do by law" is the bar, then no wonder a coward like him got elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Daz coo, but innocent until proven guilty and you have no actual evidence of any wrong doing. He, and any other president, aren't legally obligated to release them if they don't want to.
    Innocent until proven guilty is only a thing in criminal court.....Not in public opinion. Sure, they aren't obligated, but when they fail to do so they look very suspicious (Which is literally what Crissi said, but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't know those words).

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Hombregato View Post
    Aside from his typical incompetence, he is right. The election is over and pointlessly trying to go after his tax returns is stupid.
    "If I decide to run for office I’ll produce my tax returns. Absolutely" - DT.

    Must have been a fake interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torgent View Post
    Innocent until proven guilty is only a thing in criminal court.....Not in public opinion. Sure, they aren't obligated, but when they fail to do so they look very suspicious (Which is literally what Crissi said, but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't know those words).
    Too bad it isn't a reason for an impeachment and just another thing to call him stupid for.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Hombregato View Post
    Aside from his typical incompetence, he is right. The election is over and pointlessly trying to go after his tax returns is stupid.
    People don't want to see his taxes because of the election...They want to see them to see if our President has financial ties to people that we should know about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dextroden View Post
    Too bad it isn't a reason for an impeachment and just another thing to call him stupid for.
    Sure, that alone isn't reason for impeachment. Absolutely. But it is suspicious when even he said that he would do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High View Post
    No shit, thats not the point.
    Then what is?
    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    If "only do things you are required to do by law" is the bar, then no wonder a coward like him got elected.
    Maybe? I don't like doing stuff I don't have to either.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torgent View Post
    Innocent until proven guilty is only a thing in criminal court.....Not in public opinion. Sure, they aren't obligated, but when they fail to do so they look very suspicious (Which is literally what Crissi said, but I wouldn't be surprised if you don't know those words).
    The public opinion doesn't mean anything. All arguments about this are nothing more than "i want him to because i FEEL he should because i FEEL like he did something wrong.

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