Poll: Who gave up more?

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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Amirila View Post
    Yet demon hunters literally fight fire with fire. They themself are also being the evil to fight the evil. That's why so many on Azeroth hate them
    Does using the Fel involve desecrating corpses and souls of the fallen to fuel your war effort? Demon hunters are purely chaotic good, using a chaotic and destructive force purely for the destruction of a greater evil. The Fel, when controled by a demon hunter, has no real impact outside of empowering the demon hunter physically and magically. It acts as a super steroid that impacts the DH and only the DH, obtaining said power also doesn't really involve evil methods, it's killing a demon.

    Death Knights use far darker sources of power, requiring corpses and souls to really get the job done. The demon hunters can slay a demon (pure evil) and eat its power to improve their contribution. A death knight has to tear a soul from the afterlife and place it in a corpse, spreading plague, and using weapons that are lethal and poisonous to even touch.

    It's like comparing a lawful good vampire who only drinks the blood of rapists and criminals to a necromancer trying to use necromancy for good. No matter how you look at it, one can commit good without committing evil, and the other has to commit evil to do good. Both are evil by nature, but the methods in which they are evil aren't equal.

    Death Knights go so much farther, push so many more boundaries than Demon Hunters do.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Hctaz View Post
    It is getting really sad. All these demon hunters thinking they know what sacrifice is
    By definition it's giving something up willingly. Death knights got turned into death knights against their will, that's not sacrifice

  3. #103
    Demon Hunters, by far.

    Death Knights didn't exactly choose their fate.

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    It goes DKs then Warlocks a close second. Who has sacrifice more than DKs or Warlocks, given they have been killing their pets for years now.

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    Demon hunters WILLINGLY accepted the torture of their training and lifestyle. DKs were raised and forced to serve. DKs didn't sacrifice anything.
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  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Amirila View Post
    Demon hunters cut out their eyes and got infused with a demon and leave their home to fight for the world. They gave up the life they had. How does death knights sacrifice all the time? By using their magic?
    By existing. Undeath is a horrible curse and the death knights are the prime example of this. They share all the burdens that the undead race do but they also have to deal with always being at the call of the Lich King. Lillian Voss has shown us that a strong enough necromancer can control any undead, even those that have gained their free will.

    Undeath is a constant state of hunger and pain. You have to find ways to preserve yourself, you can't enjoy life like the living can, and demon hunters have the choice to stop fighting and go back to enjoying peace. Death Knights will never find peace. If they were to die then they'd go to hell such as shown with Sylvanas in her book thing. Not even death will relieve them of their torment. And through it all they have slogans such as "Suffer well" and "Tomorrow is another day". They don't go around reminding people of the pains that they're forced to deal with. I mean their starting zone has them killing one of their former best friend's in life and, from the look of it, they actually gain a bit of sanity and would rather not do so. Their friend actually tells you to kill them so that the Lich King doesn't get suspicious for leaving them alive.

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    Demon Hunters cut their eyes out once.

    Death Knights exist in a state of constant sacrifice.
    Lol read the Illidan book.

    What DH's do to themselves leaves them insane/ sometimes gibbering and often end up killing themselves.

    Their eyes are often gouged out in an attempt to get the images they see out of their head.
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    That's same excuse from you and so many others on this website and your right some of threads do bully high elf fans to a point where they might end up losing their minds to a point of a mass shooting.
    Holy shit lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amirila View Post
    Demon hunters cut out their eyes and got infused with a demon and leave their home to fight for the world. They gave up the life they had. How does death knights sacrifice all the time? By using their magic?
    Death Knights exist in a constant state of pain and hunger. Being healed by the light is like being burned by fire.

    Their initial deaths were their sacrifice. They gave everything to fight for the protection of the world. Demon Hunters gave their eyes, Death Knights gave their lives. And what did their sacrifice earn them? Being unwillingly raised into undeath and forced to commit atrocities until they finally broke free and got a shot at a second chance. And now they use their second shot at un-life, as wracked with torturous pain as it is, to fight to make the world a better place.


    If you think cutting out your eyes is "more of a sacrifice" than laying your life down on the line and existing in constant pain as a means to selflessly preserve the world... well, I disagree.
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    Demon Hunters....

    Sadly....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorcanna View Post
    Demon Hunters, by far.

    Death Knights didn't exactly choose their fate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bathory View Post
    Demon hunters WILLINGLY accepted the torture of their training and lifestyle. DKs were raised and forced to serve. DKs didn't sacrifice anything.


    They chose to lay down their lives in defense of their homelands against the scourge.
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    DH sacrificed while DK suffer for eternity.

  12. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Hctaz View Post
    By existing. Undeath is a horrible curse and the death knights are the prime example of this. They share all the burdens that the undead race do but they also have to deal with always being at the call of the Lich King. Lillian Voss has shown us that a strong enough necromancer can control any undead, even those that have gained their free will.

    Undeath is a constant state of hunger and pain. You have to find ways to preserve yourself, you can't enjoy life like the living can, and demon hunters have the choice to stop fighting and go back to enjoying peace. Death Knights will never find peace. If they were to die then they'd go to hell such as shown with Sylvanas in her book thing. Not even death will relieve them of their torment. And through it all they have slogans such as "Suffer well" and "Tomorrow is another day". They don't go around reminding people of the pains that they're forced to deal with. I mean their starting zone has them killing one of their former best friend's in life and, from the look of it, they actually gain a bit of sanity and would rather not do so. Their friend actually tells you to kill them so that the Lich King doesn't get suspicious for leaving them alive.
    By staying "alive" is a weird way to sacrifice something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friendlyimmolation View Post
    Lol read the Illidan book.

    What DH's do to themselves leaves them insane/ sometimes gibbering and often end up killing themselves.

    Their eyes are often gouged out in an attempt to get the images they see out of their head.
    That's lovely.

    Death Knights bear unfathomable pain every day, eyes or not, and are forced with knowing the crimes they committed against their will.

    And yet they still go on being pretty chill dudes. Not only have Death Knights sacrificed more than Demon hunters, they also aren't little bitches about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amirila View Post
    By staying "alive" is a weird way to sacrifice something.
    Tell that to Sylvanas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    They chose to lay down their lives in defense of their homelands against the scourge.
    Every class did the same, they all took up arms

  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    They chose to lay down their lives in defense of their homelands against the scourge.
    Not all died fighting the scoruge, look what we did to Nazgrim and Trollbane let alone what we did to Morgrane to get raised again after the sweet release of death that ended his eternal suffering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amirila View Post
    Every class did the same, they all took up arms
    And Death Knights paid the ultimate price for it.
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  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Bjoramier of Lordaeron View Post
    Demon Hunters by far

    DKs didnt really sacrifice shit willingly, they just died, boohoo.
    Correct me if im wrong but the story line of the DKs is that you're a champion of your faction resurrected by the lich king, as mentioned by the npc you kill that was once your friend during the opening.

    This of course means that while the DHs went all emo and cut their eyes out, DKs are literally champions of their faction that fought and died for the greater good, were resurrected by arthas, and after breaking free are NOT CHILLIN ON THE BEACH WITH A PINA COLADA, instead they're STILL fighting to protect the innocent or more specifically the living, at any cost, "We do what the living can not."

    So as per the OP:

    Can't help but find it funny that every time I talk to a DH NPC they say "I have sacrificed everything, what have YOU given!?".
    Answer: My life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini Soul View Post
    Not all died fighting the scoruge, look what we did to Nazgrim and Trollbane let alone what we did to Morgrane to get raised again after the sweet release of death that ended his eternal suffering.
    The four horsemen are exceptions, I'd say. All other Death Knights that we know of (including player DKs) were raised by the Lich King.

    Besides, I'd say Mograine was fine with being brought back. He sacrificed himself (see that word?) to preserve the Ebon Blade.
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    Words to live by.

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    And Death Knights payed the ultimate price for it.
    Which is sad, but not enough

  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    They chose to lay down their lives in defense of their homelands against the scourge.
    I'm fairly sure plenty of people die during war without choosing to do so. The Demon Hunters win the competition of Edge.

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