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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by mickybrighteyes View Post
    someone's forgetting the extra work blizz would put in altering teh game to have each class start at 98
    Also, the reverse is probably the case, lore wise and from development aspects.

    Lore wise, when you start at level one, Borken isles has not yet to be discovered, hell, artas was not yet the Lich King. What we dont think about is that when we level we actually go back in time and start from "vanilla" and continue the trip once again. Being a demon hunter before the events of legion would make no sense since they were all inprisoned.

    And also Blizzard would need to add tons of green/blue/epic warglavies every where so new demon hunters would have weapons to fight with. Sounds like a lot of job, but possible.

    The reason is probablt lore wise, demon hunters did not exist (inprisoned) prior to the events of Legion.

  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by oxyzz View Post
    Lore wise, when you start at level one, Borken isles has not yet to be discovered, hell, artas was not yet the Lich King. What we dont think about is that when we level we actually go back in time and start from "vanilla" and continue the trip once again. Being a demon hunter before the events of legion would make no sense since they were all inprisoned.
    Wrong.
    In Vanilla we started our characters 3 years after Arthas became the lich king.
    Ever since Cataclysm we actually start about 6 years after Arthas became the lich king. (Basically AFTER the death of Arthas)

    Exception here are:
    - BEs and Draenei, who still start their journey 4 years after Arthas became the lich king.
    - DKs, who start 5 years after Arthas's rise to power

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Louie De Palma View Post
    You want Blizzard to earn money they don't deserve?
    What? While I do sometime feel some people do not deserve they have acquired, in this case, it is purely optional for people to pay for the boost.

    In reverse, do you think people deserves to roll classes starting at 98. If so, why do you think that?

  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louie De Palma View Post
    If Blizzard wants us to jump right into the content of the expansion, they should just let us create characters at the same level as the Demon Hunter.
    They do. Just buy a boost. This is a non-problem.

  5. #65
    i wanted the exactly opposite.

    Wanted to level a DH from scratch. starting on level 1 and doing all old-zones with it.

    Hopefully Scale will come to old zones so i will be able to have fun doing old content with my DH someday.
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  6. #66
    Because DH is hero class like DK

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Zmago View Post
    Wrong.
    In Vanilla we started our characters 3 years after Arthas became the lich king.
    Ever since Cataclysm we actually start about 6 years after Arthas became the lich king. (Basically AFTER the death of Arthas)

    Exception here are:
    - BEs and Draenei, who still start their journey 4 years after Arthas became the lich king.
    - DKs, who start 5 years after Arthas's rise to power
    Ah thanks for correcting me, knew i was wrong somehow XD

  8. #68
    Yeah lets have everything start at 98 we don't need all that extra money from boosts :thinking:

  9. #69
    This question is easy to answer.

    Money.

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by McNeil View Post
    If anything they should improve the 1-100 leveling experience, rather than making the game solely about the end game. But I think the game is to far gone to take this route.
    They did in Cata only for you and everyone else to rip them a new one for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirrohon View Post
    They are a Hero class. Even though after DKs, Blizz said that they would never do another Hero class. They pulled all the stops following the WotLK model, so you get this enticing people to come and play Legion/WoW.
    no they never said they would not make any more hero classes, just that they would need to be more careful, because with dks when they made them, they were super mega op, because they were "hero" classes their original thought was yes they would be stronger, but no raid would want to take a ton of them right? and they would make mechanics so you couldent just bring a ton of them, sadly in the beta they were way too strong, and noticed that it would possibly still cause problems, so they railed they back

    even after nerfing them a ton they were still super mega strong for most of wrath
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  12. #72
    Because character boosts.

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by oxyzz View Post
    Also, the reverse is probably the case, lore wise and from development aspects.

    Lore wise, when you start at level one, Borken isles has not yet to be discovered, hell, artas was not yet the Lich King. What we dont think about is that when we level we actually go back in time and start from "vanilla" and continue the trip once again. Being a demon hunter before the events of legion would make no sense since they were all inprisoned.

    And also Blizzard would need to add tons of green/blue/epic warglavies every where so new demon hunters would have weapons to fight with. Sounds like a lot of job, but possible.

    The reason is probablt lore wise, demon hunters did not exist (inprisoned) prior to the events of Legion.
    Actually, a new character now (non-draenei/bloodelf/DK/pandaren) start in a post Cata state where Arthas has been defeated. The vanilla storylines are mostly gone except in a few regions that were almost ignored for /reasons (i think Silithus is mostly the same except for elite/normal tagging of mobs). Pandaren get to start in a post Pandaria discovery era and travel back in time to see pre-pandaria discovered time. Dk's are perpetually stuck in a Wrath era start for their initial creation sort of like how Demon hunters are in a TBC era start that transitions into a legion era storline.

    Another thing. Blizz wouldn't really need to go back and add more warglaives since demonhunters are also proficient with fist, axes, swords and i think even daggers for some reason. They aren't limited to JUST glaives.

  14. #74
    Because DH are hero classes. Hero classes start at higher levels.

  15. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ssateneth View Post
    Because DH are hero classes. Hero classes start at higher levels.
    But why do hero classes start at higher levels? The reason is because they want us to jump right into the action. They don't want us to level our Demon Hunter through Elwynn Forest and spend days on getting them up to level 100. So it's essentially the same reason why the level boost exists. The level boost exists because some people are so turned off by the idea of having to spend days to get to level 100 where they can finally get to the new stuff, that they often end up not doing it at all. So the reason for why these 2 things exist is really one and the same.

    When they released the Monk, it became the least played class ever, because few people wanted to level up a new character from level 1. So why not just allow players to start right at level 98 or 100? Without paying a ridiculous sum of money, that is.

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Louie De Palma View Post
    But why do hero classes start at higher levels? The reason is because they want us to jump right into the action. They don't want us to level our Demon Hunter through Elwynn Forest and spend days on getting them up to level 100. So it's essentially the same reason why the level boost exists. The level boost exists because some people are so turned off by the idea of having to spend days to get to level 100 where they can finally get to the new stuff, that they often end up not doing it at all. So the reason for why these 2 things exist is really one and the same.

    When they released the Monk, it became the least played class ever, because few people wanted to level up a new character from level 1. So why not just allow players to start right at level 98 or 100? Without paying a ridiculous sum of money, that is.
    Because if they let everyone start at, say, 100, the people who do choose to start from lvl 1 would be utterly and completely alone. Even more so than now.
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  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by mickybrighteyes View Post
    Actually, a new character now (non-draenei/bloodelf/DK/pandaren) start in a post Cata state where Arthas has been defeated. The vanilla storylines are mostly gone except in a few regions that were almost ignored for /reasons (i think Silithus is mostly the same except for elite/normal tagging of mobs). Pandaren get to start in a post Pandaria discovery era and travel back in time to see pre-pandaria discovered time. Dk's are perpetually stuck in a Wrath era start for their initial creation sort of like how Demon hunters are in a TBC era start that transitions into a legion era storline.

    Another thing. Blizz wouldn't really need to go back and add more warglaives since demonhunters are also proficient with fist, axes, swords and i think even daggers for some reason. They aren't limited to JUST glaives.
    All they'd really need to do is add some weapons that DH's can use to the quest reward tables.

    But besides that, there's the problem you guys are discussing: The absolute mess the timeline is in when you start a character before the current expansion. A level 1 character starts in cata, goes back to TBC, then forward to WotLK, then Cata, MoP, WoD, and finally Legion. Except the leveling experience is so disjointed due to constantly skipping forward as level-ups outpace the story. Even if you did follow the story, your character is joining each expansion in the final patch of that expansion, missing out on a lot of what happened between. And all of it with absolutely no explanation of why or how.

    For a Demon Hunter to level from 1....it would make even less sense. For everyone else you get a free level boost when you buy legion, and it's assumed that you'll use it. Alts and other characters you create after that can do whatever, since Blizzard really doesn't care about expansions other than the current one.
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  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by SirCowdog View Post
    All they'd really need to do is add some weapons that DH's can use to the quest reward tables.
    >.>

    recap:
    Quote Originally Posted by mickybrighteyes View Post
    demonhunters are also proficient with fist, axes, swords and i think even daggers for some reason. They aren't limited to JUST glaives.
    so blizz has already added some weapons that DH's can use to the quest reward tables.

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    Honestly wouldn't mind if they made this an option: start at 1 or 98. But as long they have boosts to sell, it ain't happening.
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    0 profit for blizz then. B(

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