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  1. #261
    Quote Originally Posted by Aussiedude View Post
    Just stating the Worst case scenario.
    America was confident about beating Vietnam too
    NK like the Vietnamese, probably have lots of tunnels scattered around their countryside too.
    That's not accurate at all. We didn't invade North Vietnam. We didn't even attack them until we were leaving. We lost because we only defended, instead of attacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    So, in your mind, FIFTY FREAKING BILLION DOLLARS is "cheap"?

    I don't even...why do I bother with this person...why?
    That's less than 10% of our military budget in 2015 alone. Bush administration relied on what happened in Kuwait a decade earlier, to create the impression it would be a quick and simple war.
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  3. #263
    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    I knew it, your new thing is just hating discussion when proven wrong or questioned
    lol /pat

    If you say so guy. Yep, you outsmarted me again!

  4. #264
    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    That's not accurate at all. We didn't invade North Vietnam. We didn't even attack them until we were leaving. We lost because we only defended, instead of attacking.
    Defending by bombing North Vietnam more than Germany and Japan combined...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Defending by bombing North Vietnam more than Germany and Japan combined...
    And never actually invaded the North on the scale we did in most other wars. You clearly did not pass history.

  6. #266
    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    That's not accurate at all. We didn't invade North Vietnam. We didn't even attack them until we were leaving. We lost because we only defended, instead of attacking.
    Our side lost because we abandoned the war. It took north vietnam an entire two years before the fall of saigon. To assume they were winning the entire time is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    And never actually invaded the North on the scale we did in most other wars. You clearly did not pass history.
    Could you list all the wars you could think of, where US invaded?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    lol /pat

    If you say so guy. Yep, you outsmarted me again!
    Try harder next time? Gettin old quick.

  9. #269
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Could you list all the wars you could think of, where US invaded?
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    No.

    /10chars
    That makes no sense... oh well...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    You clearly did not pass history.
    Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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  12. #272
    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    And never actually invaded the North on the scale we did in most other wars. You clearly did not pass history.
    ''Defending'' does not exactly involve massive bombing campaigns.

    Besides, here is a stupid question. The USA, despite massive firepower and manpower, never managed to control completely the South countryside. How they would have controlled the much more populated North, with even more hostile terrain ?

  13. #273
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    That makes no sense... oh well...
    Prior history not worth discussion, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    Prior history not worth discussion, sorry.
    What history is not prior? lol
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    I'll turn it around on you @GennGreymane , can we afford to wait? They already have working nukes, they just can't deploy them over longer ranges yet. I don't want to give them even more time to develop long range missiles with nuke capability, as it's clear they're trying to do so.

    It's already too late. They should have been invaded right after they set off their first nuke. You can't let a child play with matches like that.
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  16. #276
    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    What history is not prior? lol
    I meant ours. =p

  17. #277
    Quote Originally Posted by Pirrah View Post
    Your brain hasn't got that capacity to handle this
    Well I was following what you were saying and considered it maybe the western media might not be 100% then you post then and lost all credibility.

  18. #278
    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    Will it be another WMD senario though? SUre Saddam was gone, but it cost a few billion after
    Nope, Koreans aren't like that. We're kind of pacifistic by nature, unless we are pushed to the point of anger or just fucking insane. There won't be a Korean ISIS or insurgency that materializes to fill the power vacuum.

    I'd worry more about Russia and China. They won't take it very kindly with us knocking at their back door. Don't go into the DPRK unlesk you have the support of both of them and the ROK.

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