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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    I posted a video of him calling Hamas and Hezbollah his friends. I do not need to do a character assassination on Corbyn, he does that himself.



    Overt support for murderous dictators and terrorist organisations does not need to be from policy, it can be spoken, which he has done.
    Again I will ask. If he as bad as you say he is what are his proposed policies in support of terrorists? I don't care about your attempted character assassination, I've seen enough of those to understand exactly what you are doing and to dismiss it out of hand. So give me that policy list.
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryme View Post
    "look, I'm elected now, the people want my Brexit!".

    RIP GBP.
    Please, enough with the moaning.

    Its been almost a year. The UK voted - to leave. The majority want this.

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    There doesn't even need to be one, it's obvious to anyone of any side she is going to win. Just a huge waste of money and time for an ego boost.

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    Most people's problem with the bill in general is that there shouldn't be a limit. The Tories created a problem and resolved it disgustingly.
    What's disgusting about it?
    please run me through how it is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malacrass View Post
    I also doubt that Brexit wont happen, but technically it is possible to backtrack. Nothing in the contracts says that a EU member can't revoke their request to leave.
    The only thing lawyers note is that it would likely need a mutual agreement from both the EU and GB, else it could lead to a constant back and forth between leaving and staying.

    But nothing is set in stone, weirdly enough. A country leaving the EU never happened and apparently no one has/had a clear idea how to handle such a situation. Absolutely ridiculous imo, but hey what do I know.
    If the snap election delivers a majority (say in the unlikely even the Libdems get a majority) against brexit, its very very unlikely the EU would object to the application being rescinded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tollshot View Post
    Let's be fair, the British establishment have a bad habit of befriending tyrants and terrorists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenbeef View Post
    There doesn't even need to be one, it's obvious to anyone of any side she is going to win. Just a huge waste of money and time for an ego boost.
    Not just an ego boost, she's after winning more seats too so she has more conservatives in parliament and less labour etc so she has an even bigger majority in there, but its a risk shes willing to take. I think they probably could take more labour seats though.
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  7. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by Sliske View Post
    The majority want this.
    if you say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by tollshot View Post
    Let's be fair, the British establishment have a bad habit of befriending tyrants and terrorists
    None of whom I would describe as being good people at heart. Thatcher hardly has a reputation for being nice even amongst Thatcherites. Good politicians, possibly, pragmatic, yes...but good people?

    Corbyn is neither a good person, nor a good politician. I am not entirely sure what his saving grace is, other than the team he supports.

    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Again I will ask. If he as bad as you say he is what are his proposed policies in support of terrorists? I don't care about your attempted character assassination, I've seen enough of those to understand exactly what you are doing and to dismiss it out of hand. So give me that policy list.
    So what the person says is irrelevant? Their own words are not indicative of their sentiments, only policies that they would need to convince other Labour Party members of, who may well not share those terrorist sympathising sentiments, are relevant?

    If quoting what Jeremy Corbyn says and linking videos of him saying it, counts as a character assassination, then am I the one who is out of order, or is it the person who said those things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roosta View Post
    What a crazy idea to encourage representatives from extremely troubled areas of the world to sit down at a table and be involved in discussion. Can't see that being a good plan.
    As for the only proper course of action against scum like Hamas and Hezbollah:

    " There is only one 'retirement plan' for terrorists."

    " You got guys who slap women around because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    You know its pretty obvious what you are trying to do here, carry out a character assassination, and its frankly disgusting.
    All that's required to assassinate Corbyn's "character" (lol) is a recitation of his own words.
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  10. #190
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    None of whom I would describe as being good people at heart. Thatcher hardly has a reputation for being nice even amongst Thatcherites. Good politicians, possibly, pragmatic, yes...but good people?

    Corbyn is neither a good person, nor a good politician. I am not entirely sure what his saving grace is, other than the team he supports.



    So what the person says is irrelevant? Their own words are not indicative of their sentiments, only policies that they would need to convince other Labour Party members of, who may well not share those terrorist sympathising sentiments, are relevant?

    If quoting what Jeremy Corbyn says and linking videos of him saying it, counts as a character assassination, then am I the one who is out of order, or is it the person who said those things?
    You posted a 1 min clip where he says "friends from Hamas" and "friends from Hezbollah". You are now using that to push a narrative saying that he sympathizes with terrorists. You are taking a couple of words and extrapolating them to infinity. I known a character assassination when I see it.

    So as I have asked if he is such a supporter of terrorism then tell me what policies he has proposed/suggested to provide that support. Come on do so. List them all for us all to plainly see. And truly why do I have to keep asking you to do so? Why can't you just list them as I've asked? Why the avoidance?
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    So in April, May announces an election for June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tollshot View Post
    Let's be fair, the British establishment have a bad habit of befriending tyrants and terrorists







    Saudis are likely holding the lid on something much worse as bad as they are

    Pinochet was scum but he was instrumental in helping the UK beat Argentina in Falkland islands (Transmitting radar signals of Argentine military launches to British military allowing Britain to have an edge on Argentine air force). Case of pragmatism

    Qaddafi visit basically got him to give up some of his worse weapons and opened him to some reform, well until he went nuts again during early protests, causing Libyan civil war which he lost. Political Pragmatism.

    Shaking hands with McGuinness basically signaled essentially that there was outside of the few hundred at most super extremists no one was going to take up arms in Northern Ireland again. Political pragmatism.

    Saying friends with Hamas or Hezbollah you can't use political pragmatism as a reason, it's simply indefensible position to have even if the two are as much hospital and school builders (for propaganda reasons mostly) as they are killers who are not in charge of countries we need to be diplomatic with or pulling back from their extremist views like Qaddaffi seemed to and McGuinness did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    You posted a 1 min clip where he says "friends from Hamas" and "friends from Hezbollah". You are now using that to push a narrative saying that he sympathizes with terrorists. You are taking a couple of words and extrapolating them to infinity. I known a character assassination when I see it.
    He called terrorist organisations his friends, are you saying that he did not regard them as his friends?

    Do you think that Blair or Major, when they were dealing with the IRA, would have publicly called the IRA their friends? They had to sit around a table and negotiate with them, but they would not refer to a terrorist organisation as their mate...because they are terrorist organisations.

    So as I have asked if he is such a supporter of terrorism then tell me what policies he has proposed/suggested to provide that support. Come on do so. List them all for us all to plainly see. And truly why do I have to keep asking you to do so? Why can't you just list them as I've asked? Why the avoidance?
    The Labour Party is not a dictatorship. Do you understand that he would need to get a consensus on policy from his supporters in order to make them party policy? That is a rhetorical question, the answer is clearly no, you do not.


    Do you not see that it is somewhat silly to claim that quoting Corbyn is a character assassination of Corbyn? They are his words.

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    I'm wondering if there is some kind of behind the curtains conspiracy to this. I mean, there isn't really a reason to hold new elections - conservatives already hold a majority.... elections cost lots of money, too.

    So I wonder whether they are actually after the SNP seats instead of crushing the Labour.... the Scottish referendum might be what's worrying to May, not brexit and Labour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    I'm wondering if there is some kind of behind the curtains conspiracy to this. I mean, there isn't really a reason to hold new elections - conservatives already hold a majority.... elections cost lots of money, too.
    Unlikely, the Tories are fairly wealthy - our elections only last six weeks - and their lead in Parliament is slender.

    So I wonder whether they are actually after the SNP seats instead of crushing the Labour.... the Scottish referendum might be what's worrying to May, not brexit and Labour.
    Not sure how that would work.


    This seems like May taking advantage of current polling. Labour will have to overturn a 20 point lead with one of the least popular leaders they have ever had. Unless May goes on Strictly and starts strangling kittens, then she is a shoo in to come out with an increased majority, legitimacy for her leadership and a clear mandate on proceeding with Brexit her way.

  16. #196
    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    This isn't about taking advantage of Labour. And it isn't about seeking a mandate for their kind of Brexit. I think there is one reason why this election has suddenly been called out of the blue.

    The investigations that are going on into the over-spending by the Tories in the last election can't be delayed any longer, and they are going to report that a) there was over-spending and b) that all the Tory held seats where the offences took place will require by-elections. This would be terrible publicity (assuming any of the MSM actually reported it) and would almost certainly result in the Tories losing their overall majority.

    So, to avoid that they are calling a snap GE, knowing that when the results of the investigations become public, they can't result in any by-elections because the GE would already have taken place.

    Oh, and if any of you don't know what I'm talking about, I'm really not surprised. Weirdly enough the fact that there are police investigations going on into election spending by the Tories in multiple constituencies hasn't been reported anything like as much as it should be. Or anything like as much as it would be if Labour were doing it rather than the Tories.

    Fingers crossed this backfires horribly on May and her lizard pals, and everyone finally sees what they are doing to anyone that isn't rich in this country. An electoral wipe-out of that crew of slimeballs would be a welcome tonic after the political nonsense of recent times.
    And this is in response to electoral fraud investigations? Seems like a lot of problems are surfacing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    Unlikely, the Tories are fairly wealthy - our elections only last six weeks - and their lead in Parliament is slender.
    But the election itself is paid with government tax money, and it's expensive. I didn't mean the campaigning.

    EDIT: Quick Google magic tells me the election costs about 120m pounds + another bunch for the campaigning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    Unlikely, the Tories are fairly wealthy - our elections only last six weeks - and their lead in Parliament is slender.



    Not sure how that would work.


    This seems like May taking advantage of current polling. Labour will have to overturn a 20 point lead with one of the least popular leaders they have ever had. Unless May goes on Strictly and starts strangling kittens, then she is a shoo in to come out with an increased majority, legitimacy for her leadership and a clear mandate on proceeding with Brexit her way.
    One majority that will evaporate into thin air if the fraud and spending allegations are true in the next election cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    But the election itself is paid with government tax money, and it's expensive. I didn't mean the campaigning.
    Eric Pickles expense account for lunches are probably higher than the cost of a General Election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnabas View Post
    One majority that will evaporate into thin air if the fraud and spending allegations are true in the next election cycle.
    Most people do not give a shit about the Tories spending too much on campaigning, even the left wing press have been quiet on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffyman View Post
    That's not what I'm hearing when it's been turned into a "wimmins" issue.
    Then you aren't paying attention.

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    What's disgusting about it?
    please run me through how it is that?
    Their fix is disgusting in that it requires women to prove they were raped in order to get child tax credits for a third child (and only a third).

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