The whole problem is based on x, let x be something arbitrary. Now imagine I just start throwing out random statements about/involving x: fill in all the details with your imagination.
The addon is a problem because it automates player interaction even for the tiniest things out in the world. They don't expect to interact with someone when they use the group finder, they just click a button to expedite a chore. It is soulless.
When you join a random dungeon, raid or battleground, you spend enough time and you face enough challenges that you need to coordinate with ppl even if you don't talk to them, and there is the excuse that finding a group the traditional way would be too problematic for a lot of players. But for solo content? None of that applies. It's not about casual seeing content, it's all about maximizing efficiency in a game that should be fun.
So, in the best case scenario it's 30 seconds when all 5 players do the quest, in worst case scenario you get 4 players AFK and it takes the same time as doing it without a group?
IMO it's better without these addons, they create great environment for players to AFK while doing WQs. It's basically tagging 2.0, logical conclusion to tagging. While tagging is fine in my book (i don't mind boomkin running around tagging shit with moonfire because moonfire usually takes away 40% health of a mob), but AFKing is just obnoxious (by sound of it, never experienced it myself since WoD winter event boss farm, i don't do WQs in groups with randoms). People who use addons to find groups to do WQs quicker (which is IMO pointless, making something already quick even quicker) just create proper environment for this kind of behavior to evolve
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If i understand OP correctly - yeah, that's what happens.
Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary
People would still use this addon if they were grouped with AFK players. Or do you check your DPS meters or whatever if players you are grouped with are afk or not? Then you kick them? Doesn't it kill the purpose of saving time? What about people who get into your group and spam heals on you? They don't contribute to "speed", but they are not AFK, and this tool is the best way for them to do WQs faster because they are healers and they take longer time killing stuff.
Anyways, y ou talk made up numbers here, some WQs are personal, some of them are not, some of them take 5 minutes, some of them requires you to just fly there and right click stuff (#flyingkilledkirintorquests).
Apparently, my wife uses this WQ addon to do her WQs, when i'll get home i'll compare how much time it saves her compared with me doing it solo.
Fuck, 5 minutes for a WQ is painfully long, it's probably a case of extreme bad luck on a hedonist quest?
Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary
I think some people want to make it seem like this happens a lot more often than it actually does
I am the one who knocks ... because I need your permission to enter.
Solution is pretty simple - don't use LFG.
I don't care about Wow 11.0, if it's not solo-MMO. No half-measures - just perfect xpack.
Why do people even group up for WQ's? I always finish them in literally 1-2 minutes. For the social aspect? There is none, no one talks. Just get a friend in your guild and play together if you want faster WQ's or a fun group.
i don't know if people are just trolling.In most cases world quests are significantly faster in a group because of shared credit. You fan out and cover more grounds than you can solo, or you have a tank pull everything and a strong dps can nuke them down. Sure, because of shared tagging you may not need a group but for quests that gives shared completion (like certain "saving someone by clicking on them" quests)it speeds them up.
On an absolutely worst case scenario where you get into a group with 4 leechers, you would just be doing the WQ as if you are solo questing. For each member that is actually doing something you are speeding things up.
I can understand reasons like "i dont want to reward afker" or "im too lazy to go join a group/use an addon", but if you do care about maximizing efficiency doing WQ, grouping is definitely something that makes it so.
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Yeah sure, it never happened before flying was available, right. /s
Blame absurd idiotic crossserver tech and even more absurd idiotic addon which allows people to abuse that absurd idiotic crossserver tech. Not flying.
No more time wasted in WoW.. still reading this awesome forum, though
can someone explain to me what world quest group finder makes so absolutly good?
Its just that you click an WQ and automaticly join a group for what WQ?