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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch View Post
    No see thats the thing videotron is bound to a contract others like bell and rogers arent. They are not allowed to offer international services. So if you travel you actually gotta buy time with another company. So in short the law suit was just to ruin one company having the upper hand on one market by offering lower prices and unlimited music from apps. They are only present in the province of Quebec.
    Videotron has the same international roaming packages available on their as the ones I get through Fido, only cheaper and better.

    This not targeting one company, this is defending Net Neutrality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrianth View Post
    Videotron has the same international roaming packages available on their as the ones I get through Fido, only cheaper and better.

    This not targeting one company, this is defending Net Neutrality.
    No they do not, they are actually forced to use rogers as an intermediate. You realize i worked for both rogers and videotron when i was in college? When you buy roaming time outside of Canada from videotron, you simply pay rogers to use rogers line.

    Notice how rogers was the one company on videotron side of the ruling lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch View Post
    No they do not, they are actually forced to use roger as an intermediate. You realize i worked for both rogers and videotron when i was in college? When you buy roaming time outside of Canada from videotron, you simply pay to use rogers line.
    Funny cause from what I'm looking at now:

    Videotron: $10 for full use of plan while in the US.
    Fido: $20 for 100 text messages and 1gb data while in the US.

    Rogers doesn't have a network in the US, they partner with US telecomms.

    http://www.comparecellular.com/rogers-coverage-maps/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrianth View Post
    Funny cause from what I'm looking at now:

    Videotron: $10 for full use of plan while in the US.
    Fido: $20 for 100 text messages and 1gb data while in the US.
    Those arent global plans. Canada and USA. I was talking about international travel roaming. Its all money straight into rogers pocket. But actually even in the US coverage, those are still rogers line videotron has to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch View Post
    Those arent global plans. Canada and USA. I was talking about international travel roaming. Its all money straight into rogers pocket.
    You don't pay to use Rogers network outside of Canada because rogers network does not exist outside of Canada, especially not globally.

    http://www.comparecellular.com/rogers-coverage-maps/

    EVERY carrier pays to roam outside of Canada because every carrier relies on foreign networks to roam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch View Post
    Notice how rogers was the one company on videotron side of the ruling lol.
    Wrong. Rogers was on the side of the CRTC. It was companies like Bell, Telus, etc who were on Videotron's side.

    To Clarify: Bell and Telus were on the side of differential pricing. This was the issue that the CRTC ruled against. It's the act of any company giving preferential treatment to another company/service at the expense of other companies.

    Videotron makes their music streaming service not use up date. Therefore a consumer is more likely to use their service than iTunes or Google Play Music, as those services would use data. This creates an unfair market condition. Which Bell/Telus/Videotron were for. Whereas Rogers was against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Net neutrality == Netflix subsidy

    Netflix is like half of all internet traffic by now.
    Netflix pays their ISP (or NSP) for their service.

    Netflix's customers pay their ISPs for their service.

    Where's the subsidy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Net neutrality == Netflix subsidy

    Netflix is like half of all internet traffic by now.
    Netflix is a basically a fundamental human right at this point, so internet service providers should learn to shut up and give us the bandwidth we need to live - or we will be forced to nationalize the internet because they can't be trusted to align their business model to societies best interest.

    Put that guillotine above their head, and then ask them again how much they want to shutdown all video traffic on the internet because it's costing them bandwidth, and they priced their plans around the assumption that they would charge people for more bandwidth than they anticipated them to actually use, and are shocked - shocked - to find that people actually need gigabytes of data every month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    You realize the CEOs and BOD of all these evil corps are like 99% left wing
    Nope.

    They are 99% right-wing and donate to the GOP because they want tax cuts for the rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/a...net-neutrality

    Great to see.
    Hopefully this can inspire other countries to follow suit.

    So basically Telus and Bell were trying to price gouge everybody some more.
    Data is data... It always has been. Be it I use all my data every month or not It does not roll over to the next month.
    With rogers thou I have unlimited so I dont even care. Stream every day to youtube... No issues. 100 Mbps down 15Mbps up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    Netflix pays their ISP (or NSP) for their service.

    Netflix's customers pay their ISPs for their service.

    Where's the subsidy?
    Anyone who is stupid enough to pay for netflix now a days deservers to be price gouged by telus and bell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paralleluniverse View Post
    Nope.

    They are 99% right-wing and donate to the GOP because they want tax cuts for the rich.
    Nope even Wall Street is hard left

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakotsu View Post
    Anyone who is stupid enough to pay for netflix now a days deservers to be price gouged by telus and bell.
    Oh do tell why its so bad to pay for Netflix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Net neutrality == Netflix subsidy

    Netflix is like half of all internet traffic by now.
    You mispelled porn.
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    Is this the first or second time they actually ruled in favor of the people? I'm wondering if Rogers spoke in favor of net neutrality because they knew Bell could outclass them with services.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anevers View Post
    Must be nice to have government that isn't willing to sell everything to the highest bidder.
    They usually are more in line with the oligopoly. That's why the state of the internet, tv, and cell phones suck and is so expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvaelle View Post
    Netflix is a basically a fundamental human right at this point
    #allofmywhut

    Seriously, I've never had anything to do with it nor felt any need to.

    Dish Network subscriber for the past 11 years (to their package that has literally every single channel they offer) right here.

    All I do with my AT&T U-Verse is gaming, web surfing, and email.
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